Xevy
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Obi-Wan Kenobi
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Gavinmad
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If you have to make ridiculous excuses like that to justify the scenes, the Vader stuff was not fine.
The more I think about it, the less bad Reva's actress seems and the more the problem seems to be with the writing and direction. I'm not claiming she's the next Denzel or anything, but if she's being told to act like an over the top Sith baddie then I guess she's doing an ok job and the problem is the writers and director who don't understand that the Inquisitors aren't Sith.
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j00t
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the more i think about it, the more bothered i am by the laser gate lol... like it's been said, they could just walk around it. when i watched it, i was like, oh they're probably turning the gate off to take the truck, which would make turning the gate off make sense. except, it's a hover truck and terrain can't impede it so you could still just drive the truck around it anyway. blarg how stupid lol...
and to gavinmad's point about reva being told to act evil on purpose... i think that's probably the case. i mean, think about it... in the first episode the grand inquisitor basically told all of anchorhead that the empire has been lying to them this whole time and the jedi are good guys. his whole argument about the jedi is that it's an irrevocable part of their training to help people in need. they can't NOT help people, even if it means their own death. and then reva goes and proves his point by throwing a knife at some rando JUST to bait the jedi into stopping it mid-air.
we, the audience, know the empire is evil but the general population of the empire believe them to be a force for good, bringing order to the galaxy. the VAST majority of people think the jedi are evil because they all bought the lie that palpatine told them: the jedi are power hungry traitors, going so far as to attempt political assassinations to keep themselves in power.
but here goes the grand inquisitor telling everyone that the jedi are good guys, which makes the empire the bad guys by default. it's clear that the grand inquisitor believes that as well. vader and palpatine have done some obviously evil things, but they believe that what they are doing is fundamentally good. they believe with their whole being that they are bringing order to the galaxy but also that they are the only ones capable of actually doing what needs to be done in order to bring about that order.
but the writers of this show (and honestly probably all the writers at disney) don't understand that nuance. they don't understand the idea of perspective. "what does a villain see when they look in the mirror" is like, second day of writing 101 but what we're stuck with is "tell us where the jedi are or we'll just kill everyone, even though honestly, you guys probably have no idea where the jedi is... we just need to threaten to kill everyone to keep up appearances since we're the bad guys."
edit: ugh. i just though about vader showing up and immediately just force choking random people left and right, dragging some nobody down the road for no reason, other than to demonstrate that he's evil. vader in this show is kylo ren.
and to gavinmad's point about reva being told to act evil on purpose... i think that's probably the case. i mean, think about it... in the first episode the grand inquisitor basically told all of anchorhead that the empire has been lying to them this whole time and the jedi are good guys. his whole argument about the jedi is that it's an irrevocable part of their training to help people in need. they can't NOT help people, even if it means their own death. and then reva goes and proves his point by throwing a knife at some rando JUST to bait the jedi into stopping it mid-air.
we, the audience, know the empire is evil but the general population of the empire believe them to be a force for good, bringing order to the galaxy. the VAST majority of people think the jedi are evil because they all bought the lie that palpatine told them: the jedi are power hungry traitors, going so far as to attempt political assassinations to keep themselves in power.
but here goes the grand inquisitor telling everyone that the jedi are good guys, which makes the empire the bad guys by default. it's clear that the grand inquisitor believes that as well. vader and palpatine have done some obviously evil things, but they believe that what they are doing is fundamentally good. they believe with their whole being that they are bringing order to the galaxy but also that they are the only ones capable of actually doing what needs to be done in order to bring about that order.
but the writers of this show (and honestly probably all the writers at disney) don't understand that nuance. they don't understand the idea of perspective. "what does a villain see when they look in the mirror" is like, second day of writing 101 but what we're stuck with is "tell us where the jedi are or we'll just kill everyone, even though honestly, you guys probably have no idea where the jedi is... we just need to threaten to kill everyone to keep up appearances since we're the bad guys."
edit: ugh. i just though about vader showing up and immediately just force choking random people left and right, dragging some nobody down the road for no reason, other than to demonstrate that he's evil. vader in this show is kylo ren.
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Asshat wormie
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Vader was murdering randos to draw out obi wan. This tactic was demonstrates in episode 1 in the bar. It was still stupid. This whole show is fucking stupid.
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Mist
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j00t
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jayrebb
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Gavinmad
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Is she? because there was nothing wrong with the two episodes of Mando S1 she directed.
Seananigans
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The Morrigan
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I feel bad for the actors. The directing, cinematography, editing, and writing are amateur hour. The story itself is interesting, but damn, the execution of it all..... I've seen better fanfic.
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Animosity
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jayrebb
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Uh, hand-holding by F&F? That was their baby. We've seen the pics of the BTS. It's not a stretch there was a lot of hand-holding since both of them are also directors.
I'll give it until the end of Obi-wan before I render my final verdict. Episode 3 was a flag down on the play. And this is coming from someone who had nothing negative to say about Episode 1,2.
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It's not really a ridiculous excuse to think he wanted to inflict maximum pain on the focus of his hatred/anger for a decade.
Although if you're able to force lift and hold him in position, just break his limbs so he can't escape. Not sure how a force hold works vs another force user
The scenes leading up to that were terrible, one minute they're practically in a stand off, the next minute OW is fleeing and DV is doing that stupid terminator style slow, methodical walk pursuit lol.
Also, if you were Sand Snake woman, why wouldn't you take a shot at Vader instead of a random trooper
The troopers on the transport should have picked up on Leia as the name of the girl their target was travelling with, and not just get off and let them leave lol
Can't tell if jogger really is bad or if it's just my biases re an obvious diversity hire character, or bias re your typical pushy black female trope
spronk
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Reva just ran to the spaceport, magically found the pilot that was part of the Jedi Underground Railroad, killed him (we see his body), and then talked to Leia. Reva didn't use the tunnels. Bad story telling / pacing / flow since we don't see Reva interrogate/kill the spaceport crew to figure out who is the rebel but it is what it is.
That also explains how Leia made it to the end whileHarriet Tubman Tala backtracked and made it to Obi-Wan because Reva never went through the tunnel.
That also explains how Leia made it to the end while
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Gavinmad
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It does seem so much worse when you break it down like that.
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