Obi-Wan Kenobi

I mean a specifically said I'm not defending her. I'm blaming her. But I'm also blaming everyone else associated with star wars too.

Ossoi said:

I was wrong about her being showrunner -

" Joby Harold was hired to rewrite the series and serve as showrunner in April 2020, executive producing with Chow, McGregor, Kathleen Kennedy, and Michelle Rejwan."

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Let's say she's off the hook for the moment as one 10 minute sequence isn't enough to completely throw her under the bus. It's true we all know what happens to directors who question Lucas Film and attempt to make something their own. It's the only studio with a revolving door of directors that have been spit out. Ex. Lord and Miller were fired for shooting scenes they made up themselves.

I just find it ironic Bryce Dallas Howard can be praised on this forum and the community for all of the amazing things she did. But Chow can't possibly take even 1% of the criticism or responsibility for bungling Vader. The foh big brain dichotomy, one director can seemingly work miracles, walk on water, and are the sole reason something was great. Responsible single-handedly for manifesting a vision.

But Chow? No, she's a shackled woman. Director Chow is powerless and can't possibly have directed as a director. She can't have directed anything as director and nothing to do with episode 3 should be attributed to her because she is a POWERLESS peasant and she's "only" a director.

Ossoi said:

I'm not saying Chow doesn't deserve any criticism, but if she's not showrunner or main writer then ultimately she's carrying out someone elses vision. Although some websites call her showrunner, so whatever

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So we should be grateful Vader didn't stumble and fall face down into a giant pile of dung-- to stand up and then have shit stuck in the grate of his mask while he's talking.

j00t said:

I still don't blame her as the sole reason for the problems, thats all I'm saying. The problems with this show are fundamentally the same as the book of boba Fett.

Obviously as the director and show runner she carries a lot of blame, but the problems with this show are baked into it on every level.

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we can blame Chow for her equity based TV show where OB1 is a blithering fucktard in order to elevate those around him to be his "equal". somehow he forgot how to use the force completely in 10 years while he was supposed to be protecting Luke. if Revqwanda showed up at Luke's house even with OB1 standing right there, she would have slaughtered everyone and he wouldnt have done shit. all of this was decided on, then scripted and then filmed. If Chow didnt make this decision, then she is still responsible for putting out a shit product. thats a blight on her career.

Chukzombi said:

we can blame Chow for her equity based TV show where OB1 is a blithering fucktard in order to elevate those around him to be his "equal". somehow he forgot how to use the force completely in 10 years while he was supposed to be protecting Luke. if Revqwanda showed up at Luke's house even with OB1 standing right there, she would have slaughtered everyone and he wouldnt have done shit. all of this was decided on, then scripted and then filmed. If Chow didnt make this decision, then she is still responsible for putting out a shit product. thats a blight on her career.

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And it should be noted as Ossoi posted above-- Chow is also an executive producer.

Even if she is not the showrunner, or was removed as showrunner during the production break when rewrites happened-- she has double credits on this show as director and executive producer.

jayrebb said:

And it should be noted as Ossoi posted above-- Chow is also an executive producer.

Even if she is not the showrunner, or was removed as showrunner during the production break when rewrites happened-- she has double credits on this show as director and executive producer.

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the whole guarding Luke thing is a silly storyline anyway, because in the OT, OB1 wasnt guarding shit. he was just chilling out in his space hangout smoking doobies and thinking about the old days. he didnt even own a fucking car, he doesnt have a car in this show. if Luke was in trouble, he has no way of getting to him even if he could use the Force. they should have just gone with the story that Ben passed off Luke to his aunt and uncle and if they needed anything to just let him know and he would get over there in a few days if he hitched a ride and blew a few jawas.

I’m reserving judgement until the next episode. If it turns out Vader let Obi go because he wants to get more info on the fledgling help network, that might make a bit more sense.

Although this show has a running theme of easy to bypass obstacles stopping characters (branches, laser fence)

Wow looks like lots here don’t like this stuff ? Does it have the usual Star Wars flaws ? Ya

But damn , Vader has never looked so terrifying , when was the last time the dark side seemed “scary”. he’s a real monster

shabushabu said:

Vader has never looked so terrifying , when was the last time the dark side seemed “scary”. he’s a real monster

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Dementia can be scary. Unpredictable and the temper changes are a lot to deal with.

Vader just casually murdering families and people just to draw Obi-Wan out was pretty good.

I will say one thing about the newer Star Wars stuff with Vader: They do try to go out of their way to try to explain why so many people piss their pants at the mention of Darth Vader

I didn't realize that faggy jedi they strung up was Nick from Good Time:

Chow has directed some good stuff including some excellent Mando episodes.

At least one of the biggest problems I have with Ep3 of Obi-Wan must pretty much be her fault based on my extremely limited understanding of how film making works.
Specifically 3rd sister teleporting to the end of the tunnel. It really feels like this is most likely an editing fail and there should be some scene with 3rd sister finding or detecting some kind of clue that leads her to the spaceport, and she goes outside and goes to the spaceport and cuts Leia off that way. That would make sense. So having those scenes either not filmed, or cut out in editing is 100% on the director.

A few of the other ones are harder to pin on Chow because it was obviously written that way and we all know how little power most people involved in the mouse factory really have. Example the laser fence, maybe he was supposed to steal the truck (which would make some kind of sense) but writers changed it to couple with the very next scene (and one of the worst plot devices in an episode littered with bad plot devices) where obi-wan surrenders to 4 imperials after just murdering 4 imperials.

And then the absolute worst part of an awful episode of TV, vader lifting obi-wan and blowing out fire using the force, then gets stymied by fire 30 seconds later. I like to assume that Chow was told (as most mouse directors seem to be) "film it as written". Most of the TV Chow has directed has been good, not just mandalorian but some decent stuff for Netflix too, but it could just be a sign that she's weak and so when handed good material it turns out good, and when handed shit material it turns out shit, and she doesn't have the balls to push back. Who knows.

I am pretty easy to entertain and tend to enjoy a lot of content that all of the miserable cunts of this forum shit on but god damn was ep3 hard for me to take. ep1-2 I quite enjoyed so I am hopeful that it's going to get better from here.

The buck stops with the director.

Don't like the acting. Blame the director. It's their job to explain what they want, rehearse, and do as many takes as necessary to get the performance needed. Often times a director will make a shitty actor parrot a line spoon fed to them to get it done. A good director can hide a bad actor to the point you would never know.

Don't like the editing? Blame the director. It's their job to be the final QA before the stuff goes to print. Editors miss shit all the time, but that's why you have the director to be the final test.

Don't like the cinematography? Again, director. The DP offers suggestions for the shot, but the director gives the final go ahead.

In most cases (not all) the director can even change shitty dialogue or in some cases, major plot points to help a story be told better.

With Mando, Chow inherited a machine that was already running. All that was needed was to keep it going. Most people could have done this. That's why I rolled my eyes when everyone praised Bryce Dallas Howard. She wasn't the reason that episode of Boba Fett was good. Things were already in motion/written. All she had to do was yell action and fix any bad performances, which, Mando wearing a helmet really helps.

And quit the racist shit. Looking at you Cukzombi, and a few others. This nogress/revqwanda shit is tired. The 1950s are never coming back. You lost. Get over it. There are plenty of reasons to hate on this actress besides her having a darker skin tone than you, or her attractiveness level. Going that route just makes you all look like ignorant assholes. Shit, can you imagine women complaining that the villain wasn't handsome enough? Fuck is wrong with you inbreds?

The Morrigan said:

The buck stops with the director.

Don't like the acting. Blame the director. It's their job to explain what they want, rehearse, and do as many takes as necessary to get the performance needed. Often times a director will make a shitty actor parrot a line spoon fed to them to get it done. A good director can hide a bad actor to the point you would never know.

Don't like the editing? Blame the director. It's their job to be the final QA before the stuff goes to print. Editors miss shit all the time, but that's why you have the director to be the final test.

Don't like the cinematography? Again, director. The DP offers suggestions for the shot, but the director gives the final go ahead.

In most cases (not all) the director can even change shitty dialogue or in some cases, major plot points to help a story be told better.

With Mando, Chow inherited a machine that was already running. All that was needed was to keep it going. Most people could have done this. That's why I rolled my eyes when everyone praised Bryce Dallas Howard. She wasn't the reason that episode of Boba Fett was good. Things were already in motion/written. All she had to do was yell action and fix any bad performances, which, Mando wearing a helmet really helps.

And quit the racist shit. Looking at you Cukzombi, and a few others. This nogress/revqwanda shit is tired. The 1950s are never coming back. You lost. Get over it. There are plenty of reasons to hate on this actress besides her having a darker skin tone than you, or her attractiveness level. Going that route just makes you all look like ignorant assholes. Shit, can you imagine women complaining that the villain wasn't handsome enough? Fuck is wrong with you inbreds?

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i'll call that nappy headed ho whatever i want. her ridiculous 2022 hairdo and Baltimore accent mixed in with her retarded story arc.