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kitsune

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I am wildly confused but in a good way. Lost in the woods and no idea the path back to my tree house. At any rate, I picked up armorsmithing (am paladin) - what would be a good secondary to pair with it? I just wanna be biggest meatball tank
 
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Maximis Velocity

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My tank has armorsmith and weaponsmith. Ranger has leatherworking and woodworking. Cleric has cooking and (soon) jewelry. Chanter has tailor and alchemy. Across 3 accounts so I can pass stuff around.
 
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Valorath

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Yup. And apparently all the different sources stack together. Same with armor debuffs.
Do we know if this works for the shaman Action Speed debuff? I hit 20 this morning, and was super deflated to see that my new spell is Burning Fog. Reduces enemy action speed by 25%, costs 14 mana, 3 second cast. Did not replace the spell Scorching Fog which does the same thing for 8 mana. So I wondered if maybe the higher level spell will stick to targets easier. I can put them both on my bar, but haven't tried casting both on an enemy yet.
 

BrotherWu

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I created an enchanter named Voodeux on Aevos 1. Someone shoot me an invite when you can please?

Also, where the fuck am I and how do I get out of this fucking cave?
 
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Siliconemelons

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Back in the heyday of EQ me and many of my IRL friends that played were some of the best at their class.

I noticed when I was playing P1999 - man I was out of practice, I was still a darn good SK - but I was rusty to my big boy time back in live.

I say this to say - /that/ was part of what made EQ great... sometimes you needed 50 clerics to just press a button at the right time... sometimes you need a super tight group that is really good at their classes.. but you have to have a system that /allows/ that. WOW once BC hit, just seemed like get a Gear Number of X, go online and pick a skill tree combo and hotkey set and press the buttons in the correct order - now you are the same 99% of the time as any other person with X gear set. it was a mere number run.

Not saying EQ was perfect, or WOW has "no skill" - but I just kinda feel there was a bigger "difference" between a half AFK player and a super good player in EQ then WOW - and how does Vanguard seem to be stacking up in that regard?

Because to me, that falls into the "no content" argument - a really tight group of 4 may be able to do what a group of 6 cant do.
 

General Antony

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EQ is mostly about acquiring knowledge of a situation in a game that provides almost none of it to the player. WoW is about executing mechanically. A mostly AFK DPS in WoW will generally get destroyed by an equally geared sweatlord (though less relevant to classic/TBC for many classes after that rotations get more complex).

EQ has "tricks" that you learn to deal with shit, WoW doesn't you just have to pound it out better than the guy next to you.
 
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Blueweed

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got to 19 as DL. Last level was just soloing asp. am not sure what to do now. Think there is no exp in HC unless a ghost group but am abit low for that. Head to eastern waste? any thoughts ps
 

Daidraco

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got to 19 as DL. Last level was just soloing asp. am not sure what to do now. Think there is no exp in HC unless a ghost group but am abit low for that. Head to eastern waste? any thoughts ps
You're not too low for Ghosts. (unless your gear is complete shit. In which case, go on the Aveous community Discord and buy some upgrades.)
 
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Pogi.G

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I can't remember if someone mentioned it already, but kiting is stupid easy for rangers (as long as the mob doesn't cast). It is pretty insane the way it works now which tells me it may get nerfed at some point in the future. It takes a bit of time to kill, but I have been able to solo group mobs.
 
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Zefah

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Just found out this is now on Steam in early access and it may not be half bad? Crazy times we live in...

Worth $39.99 to check it out after 12 years of following this thread.
 
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Nirgon

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got to 19 as DL. Last level was just soloing asp. am not sure what to do now. Think there is no exp in HC unless a ghost group but am abit low for that. Head to eastern waste? any thoughts ps
Eastern Plains time

Halnir ghosts when u can 22+ and solo/duo EP outside of groups

Trio is when the xp starts sucking outside group mobs unless you really have some synergy and are flying (effort alert here)

Adding a 6th to a 5 is just a straight up xp gain
 
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BrotherWu

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Okay guys. I played about 2.5 hours of the game. It's terrible and you thirsty nerds should feel terrible for recommending it.
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Siliconemelons

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It really reminds me of Vanguard more so than anything.

Haven’t gotten to play MnM enough to see how it plays - but its “look and feel” from small playtimes is more EQ… and i think both are fitting into those ideas as expected and intended.
 

BrotherWu

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I said it sucked. I don't know why I'm still playing.

You were right and I don't either. I refunded that pile of shit.

I hope that they do well with EA and make enough money to bring in some real talent do get it right because I would be totally stoked to play a good, hardcore MMO. I'd give it another look. Right now, it just ain't there for me.
 

Daidraco

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Tomorrow a bunch of shit is getting itemization. So I'm kind of hype to see what gets put out there, and I be able to buy that shit / let it filter down. Not very many Wisdom options out there.