Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

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tad10

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It has been a great source of entertainment since the KS opened. Hypocrisy at its finest. Go start shit in the WoW, TESO, (insert any game that isn't EQ) threads and it is just them voicing their opinion. Do the same thing here and it is "trolling".
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Well funded Corporate Monstrosities v. Independent Fledgling Eaglet.

Night and Fucking Day. Ut bashing on Zenimax is speaking truth to power. Ut bashing on Brad is pistolwhipping a man who's already said "Uncle".
 

tad10

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And you're not, because Brad could sell you a polished turd for 49.95$, and you'd buy it with a smile on your face. After finding out it's actually a turd, you'd offer to fellate him, just for another shot at a QUALITY GAME! We get it, Brad can do no wrong, give it a rest. You fanboys are worse than Ut will ever be, because your belief in these hacks and liars, is what has this industry in the very state you lament about. This is never going to change, until you people start holding these guys accountable for their awful decisions, outright lies, and double-speak. And the only way to do that, is to QUIT GIVING THEM MONEY. Or..you know, don't, and come here to remember the "good 'ole days", after getting sold more false hope.

You're willing to believe a man who has already sold us bullshit once, on blind faith, because you can't let your life of FIFTEEN years ago go. At least the last time he pulled this, he wasn't shilling for handouts. This time, he's actually convinced you people to give HIM money? Oh, that's rich.
Holy shit, didn't realize Kirun was using CAPITAL LETTERS in HIS PosT. That means he is totes serial! :OMG:
 

Tuco

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what is the realistic budget for a well crafted MMO? 5 mil?
Oddly enough I feel like an MMO with cinematic quality cutscenes and streamlined questing and well balanced encounters that are all equally easy would be more expensive than a solid combat system, inter-dependent classes and an open sandbox world.
 

a_skeleton_03

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I find EQ's numbers highly relevant since it's a zoned game and Pantheon will be a zoned game.

Edit: DAOC not so much ;-)

How's it hanging a_skeleton_03? You living it up on Friday Night?

The zone layout doesn't dictate the cost of development in 2014. Did EQ have a competitor in 98 that was open world that I didn't know about and that is why it cost $3M?

The numbers aren't relevant because they are fifteen years old. Some aspects of the game are immensely cheaper now and some are astronomically higher. You are so blinded by your fervor it isn't funny. Be excited about the game. Root for it. Tell everyone it will be amazing. You should personally never mention anything technical though. You should stick to lore discussion and how the game will make you feel inside. Don't discuss engines or budgets or anything else tangible. Your brain is wired for liberal arts so stick to your wheelhouse and be an empty hype machine.

It is Saturday morning and I have thirty guests coming over tonight for pasta and beer pong and Jell-O shots. Going to be an odd night.
 

tad10

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The problem is that even the "shit games" can be pretty fun. I've played characters to the release "max level" in EQ, DAoC, Shadowbane, SWG, WoW, Vanguard, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, Aion, GW2, SWTOR, etc that I can think of offhand and while most of them were disappointing in some way or another, I had fun playing all of them and don't regret buying into any of them. Shit I don't even regret buying into shit like Hellgate:London lol. It was pretty damned bad but still FUN for a good short while. The 50-150$ box cost of any of these games was easily outweighed by the amusement I had. The thing is, I want a game that amuses me again for the box cost plus several months or even years of subscription time : /
God bless you, and I'm sure the gaming producers feel the same but I can't play crap. I can't read crap. I can't even watch crap. Not anymore. I'd rather play MOO2 than whatever is new and shiny and better looking than MOO2 but not as good as MOO2. MMOs are the same, I regret that my work schedule prevented me from really playing the latest round of progression servers. If Pantheon fails and SOE releases a new set of progression servers I'll arrange work so I can play - it's pretty much the only existing MMO that holds any interest. I loved VG in its horribly bugged but thoroughly charming state - way more than EQ, it was my #1 MMO, but now, after all the horrible plastic surgery that SOE has done to the game I can't play it.

I tried to like TSW but the quest grind killed me. Emerald Dream was fun for a little bit, but I've already done Vanilla WoW and it was okay, not great. I didn't need to go back.

@a_skeleton_03 enjoy your party, but not sure why you wasted whatever precious time you have on this earth (one day? six months? twenty years? sixty years? 200 years after medical advances that are coming?) offering advice that you know I wouldn't ever listen too. You could have slammed two jello shots in the time it took you type that.
 

Furious

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The zone layout doesn't dictate the cost of development in 2014. Did EQ have a competitor in 98 that was open world that I didn't know about and that is why it cost $3M?

The numbers aren't relevant because they are fifteen years old. Some aspects of the game are immensely cheaper now and some are astronomically higher. You are so blinded by your fervor it isn't funny. Be excited about the game. Root for it. Tell everyone it will be amazing. You should personally never mention anything technical though. You should stick to lore discussion and how the game will make you feel inside. Don't discuss engines or budgets or anything else tangible. Your brain is wired for liberal arts so stick to your wheelhouse and be an empty hype machine.

It is Saturday morning and I have thirty guests coming over tonight for pasta and beer pong and Jell-O shots. Going to be an odd night.
a_skeleton_03, change your avatar so I can hate you.

Post scr: stop winking at me!
 

a_skeleton_03

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At least you admit that you are a blind fanboy who hasn't actually been an MMO player like the rest of us. Unlike you the rest of us have played almost every MMO released since EQ. We actually see games fail and succeed. We haven't just played EQ/VG. We are gamers. You have played a few games. We have opinions forged from overcoming mediocrity. We play our MMOs one free month out of the box at a time and still hit level cap. We actually have seen new mechanics since 2000. A lot of us have been part of the industry in the form of CS or development. Some of us run the back end servers.

You played EQ, the complete pile of shit that was VG, WoW vanilla, and TSW. Congrats on not supporting the entire industry and being overly critical of every game you don't like yet foaming at the mouth when someone isn't completely enamored with your pet project.
 

Furious

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Oddly enough I feel like an MMO with cinematic quality cutscenes and streamlined questing and well balanced encounters that are all equally easy would be more expensive than a solid combat system, inter-dependent classes and an open sandbox world.
like tuco said, shit is cheap when you dont go full retard on voices-cuts ect
 

Skanda

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To be fair EQ is the only MMO that has its own sub forum here that is thriving. How is it not relevant ?
Thriving may be a little strong considering the DAOC emu thread has more posts than the entirety of the EQ sub forum.
 

Zambeeze_sl

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I decided to finally hop off the fence and nab a 45 dollar slot before they were all taken.
I don't have much experience with McQuaid's MMOs, but I like the idea of it and want to try something new.
Been lurking here for weeks, you guys are great entertainment.
 

Aradune_sl

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I decided to finally hop off the fence and nab a 45 dollar slot before they were all taken.
I don't have much experience with McQuaid's MMOs, but I like the idea of it and want to try something new.
Been lurking here for weeks, you guys are great entertainment.
Thani you Zambeeze
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Sutekh

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This thread moves way too fast for me to keep up, someone give me a reason why I should give money to this project.