Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO
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Rogosh
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I agree with everything except Velks was always packed, at least on Rodcet.
Soygen
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Velk's was pretty busy on Prexus as well. At least the noob/entrance area. I worked 2nd shift back then(3pm - 12am) and I used to play a lot at really late hours. I used to group up with the Australian guild(Southern Armada) and do the upper kobolds and the castle entrance. That area was always dead.
Yeah. I agree with you. Those of us who know. Who have spent COUNTLESS hours in these zones. I don't think there is a single zone in that list that I didn't spend a ton of time on. EQ and EQ2 both. Now I"m having the itch to play again.
Why are we talking about EQ, Pantheon is not going to be a revamped EQ. It will be a Vanguard 2.0, which is fine but I think people are setting the wrong expectations.
Also the lighting? Seriously? Its a minor thing, means very little, and most people want to be able to see. Most players (including me) just cast the gamma spell and went on. That crap was all over the Sigil boards and made about as much sense then.
Also the lighting? Seriously? Its a minor thing, means very little, and most people want to be able to see. Most players (including me) just cast the gamma spell and went on. That crap was all over the Sigil boards and made about as much sense then.
Muligan
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Just a question regarding Brad's Q&A3...
Brad, you mention that the planes will "at times" collide with the existing world, not always, but when they did things would be noticeable different. Without drawing comparisons to Rift as a "rift" would seem to be a lite version of what you are trying to do, let me see if I can draw this from EQ terms.
Say we are walking around East Commons and all of the sudden everything changed (possibly the entire zone), trees, mobs, vegetation, buildings appear, etc., essentially the Plane of Hate becomes intertwined with the current zone. Is that what we are looking at? Instead of going to the Planes al a EQ. The planes randomly come to us. We must either defeat it or wait for the planar collision to leave.
Just trying to get an idea if this is more of a "rift" (from Rift) or Nektolus at night on steroids.
Brad, you mention that the planes will "at times" collide with the existing world, not always, but when they did things would be noticeable different. Without drawing comparisons to Rift as a "rift" would seem to be a lite version of what you are trying to do, let me see if I can draw this from EQ terms.
Say we are walking around East Commons and all of the sudden everything changed (possibly the entire zone), trees, mobs, vegetation, buildings appear, etc., essentially the Plane of Hate becomes intertwined with the current zone. Is that what we are looking at? Instead of going to the Planes al a EQ. The planes randomly come to us. We must either defeat it or wait for the planar collision to leave.
Just trying to get an idea if this is more of a "rift" (from Rift) or Nektolus at night on steroids.
Big Flex
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be a lot cooler if it was.
I don't see VG subforums, emulators, or a clamoring for the good good ole days of VG.
mention Eq classic, vanilla wow etc and you can see the errect penises from Google earth.
Most likely a new zone will pop up and be available. We could also change an exiting zone, but I think that will be the exception, not the rule.
Vanguard is really cool. Wife and I still log on occasionally and play. They got a lot right with Vanguard. But the engine...../shudders
Seananigans
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Quineloe
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everyone was sitting at spiders, no one went deeper on Solusek Ro. That was like 20% of the dungeon, and it was shit because no rares, no loot.
Gamma won't help if lightning is actually set to pitch black level 0. Try it in Doom.
Hopefully you can keep asking this quest every single page, and maybe one page you'll be satisfied with the answer that some of the fans in this thread don't really care.
Convo
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I like that idea. I see how easy it can be tied to the lore.
KS looks better Brad, the PC gamer article still dropping today?
Kuro
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Convincing Spider people to go to Kobolds was always rife with hilarity. So many random people could not make it across the Ice Bridges.
Runaway Kobolds and the ice in there made that place absolutely hilarious. If I remember correctly, it was a great shawl items farm too. I seem to remember spending a lot of time getting lots of guildies items when we finished the first few shawls and rings or something shortly after Velious.
Mr Creed
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You forgot that it's a missed chance to light a fucking torch. Which should be the baseline answer to dark nights, available from lvl1 on. All the magic spells and god loot with innate effects can come later and should come at a trade-off. I want darkness and the interactions with light sources to mean something. I dont particularly care for the argument that people adjust their gamma since you can cheat in any game, so what.
GW2 used darkness and torch/lightsource interaction in some spots and I really liked the character that brought to those places (it was rare though, game wasnt dark in general). If anyone has an account but has not done that mini-dungeon in Dredgehaunt cliffs do yourself a favor and check it out, just to see the kind of stuff you can put into an MMO with darkness/light.
I love this post except for the clicky part. I would love to see a game where we have to rely on others period. If you let us quest for a "clicky" that gives us the same ability that the enchanter has then I no longer need an enchanter buddy.Brad - Consider this thought. In EQ so many classes had powerful spells. But what made the spells powerful? The game was difficult. Imagine the same spells in WoW. SoW? ok, so i get around a little faster, no big deal. Teleports? Ok, so i save 2 mins instead of a flightpath. Clarity? I have drinks already. Resurrection? I didn't lose XP, and the graveyard is 30 seconds from where i died...
Everquest was so special because the game put the power in the players hands.
In EQ,Travel is long? Well instead of NPC porters, Wizards and Druids get that power. Dark at night? Enchanters get infravision.
The point to all this is, the more things you can make challenging, or even things that players HATE, gives you an opportunity to give players an ability or spell to counter it. Naturally not every class will have the counter, which makes players rely on each other more. Any time you can give the players that power, you've done a hell of a job in this type of mmo you're going after. Also, you have the opportunity to have effects on your gear, or clickies that were so fun back then. You start of the game trying to save up for a torch, beetle eye, lightstone etc. A few levels later you get one. Once you start grouping you start getting the infravision buff more. Later you do a quest for an infravision clicky.
Please give it some thought
DickTrickle
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