Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

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Dahkoht_sl

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That his name Ut ? Maybe he is , I'm just going by what I've seen from what I've read on the KS thread over the days , and there are certain ones that bash RR and attack anyone questioning the KS at all, who arefolks that obviously pitched in money that are posting they have doubts with how its being handled.

Apparently it's ok to "attacK' anyone if you are happy with the Kickstater , but being negative about it is trolling and should be shouted down.
 

Tearofsoul

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Again, it is not that the thread has turned negative per say but the fact that we are getting bits of information and it is being review upon release. Sure, you have to filter out some of the posts but primarily, as information is release, it just isn't sitting well with this community. For this thread to not be "negative" you have to give us something that we find worth applauding. You can't expect to appreciate information that is below expectation. Honestly, I don't even think expectations are all that high but rather people are looking for consistency and creativity similar to EQ/VG.

The reason Brad isn't posting as much here is because he's is trying to work a lot of different audiences and i'm sure if he finds and audience more receptive, he's going to communicate more with that audience. Let's face it, he doesn't get much encouragement here without delivering the goods. Let's review, discusses fixes, and what needs to be done from here.

1. Release a Kickstarter with legitimate in-game shots. If none is available concept art. Do not put factory/stock assets in your released shots. If you are wanting to show the art direction, anyone can google the Unity engine and it's assets. Thus, simply place and link and reference the engine.
2. Do not continually admit you're still learning. Pose as the professionals at minimum. Display you've done your research. Kickstarter is nothing new. VR has repeatedly played their "we're learning" card. Learning what? You made Everquest? VG? Your team has years and years of experience and you're telling me you don't know how your target (niche) audience, which you chose by the way, works?
3. Cart before the horse. Why are we talking about the game when you need funding for a studio? salaries? etc. I know you want to show off a game that you want to make and that's supposed to encourage us to help you gain a place of employment but why even discuss it? I'm all for transparency but it is hard to focus on the game when there's no place to make it. I don't know the details but VR are the people bringing this up. It is distracting. Your stretch goals are all game based.. shouldn't you worry about being able to pay rent? If we are going to talk game, let's talk game. If you want my money for an office, show me what you want in terms of an office. What are we raising money for here? Should we be talking classes or how many computers you need an their specs?

Ok.. let's move forward.
1. Let's figure out what we are talking about. If we are talking about the game, let's talk about the game. Classes, races, combat, dungeons, etc. If you're having work so hard to get out information relevant to these points, and yes, I feel that it has been rushed, you started your own timer when you opened the KS.
2. Get the community more involved. To avoid Dark Knight issues, have your team pick a list of names, ask what we would like to see, and make it so. If a name doesn't matter, then why maintain the control and assume all the risk?
3. Be very specific. Lore week is a good idea in essence but bad timing. I care about lore but not right now. However, I like how you have went specific. I know what to expect this week and that keeps the information hungry people at bay. Knowing is so much better than speculating what we'll see next. It sucks that it will be lore this week but maybe you need the week to get other things ready.

Those are just some really quick thoughts and there is still time to make this happen but this has to change course and VR needs to act like they made games before and then have interacted with the gaming community.
This, the more info I get from KS, the more un-prepared I think VR is.
 

TragedyAnn_sl

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I just wanna say that the disappointment a lot of us are feeling is not simply a case of us being hard to please or having too high a standards or even just being assholes and bitches.

It was an obvious, maybe intentional, miscommunication. When Brad starting tweeting (and later posting here) about his "sekret mmo" or whatever, I think most of us were led to believe there was something concrete.

It has been said over and over. If he'd just made it clear that they were ONLY in the idea stage and the KS was intended to fund making their ideas a reality, then I don't think so many of us would have felt misled and disappointed with what is happening. When I hear someone say they've been WORKING on a game since sept, I am thinking of physical work. Not sitting around with friends and tossing around ideas. SO I guess that was my mistake for assuming what "working" meant.

With that being said, I haven't pulled my pledge and Brad...I'd still hit it! PM me!
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Vandyn

Blackwing Lair Raider
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After reading that update, I'm disappointed the last line didn't say...

You're in our world now!
 

Zefah

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Every way it could be another troll. Hell, the original troll is posting in this very thread. We've got some crazy fucks who have it out for Brad McQuaid.

Either way, the lore entry was interesting if not a bit confusing. I left with far more questions about the universe that the game is set in. The one take away I have is that they have a good set up to justify the addition of new land masses and races in later expansions. More planes crashing and merging with the world!
 

Furious

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Anyone else showing a better idea? I haven't seen one so I'll support this and anything else that comes out (like CU) with a reasonable chance to do something different.
This. I go away for a week and this is what happens! Some people like Flex, Mul, Gogo, have very valid critisim and I agree with most of it.

I agreed with Tad that they should wait on the kick starter till everything is ready but 90% of this thread said "just put Up the kickstarter,We got yo back"

Then we have obvious trolls like mashes (wtf are you?) and company just getting laughs.

I'm supporting because I (we, if you're not retarded) knew they had very little and was/is okay with that. Do I wish they did a better job with the KS? Yes, but I'm in it for the vision and hopefully we can see some work that we will convince me to try and help out more.

It's worth it just so I can follow a game I might be interested In for 3 years. If not i get my pledge back and can't blame myself for not trying to get the game I want made by the only guy that would try.
 

arallu

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Based on what?
Must have been cause that guy in the KS thread is a fuckin telepath: "The one day that we have the negative pledge was due to a guy that dropped his $10,000 pledge in protest to not getting what he wanted on Rerolled.In all honesty, he will re-pledge later on"