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shitlord
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I date medical doctors and attorneys. Different type of woman.
You sound like one of my clueless friends that tunnel visions in on one girl with online dating, then is surprised 4 months later it didn't work out.

when I was online dating it was in Texas, which has a LARGE amount of medical personnel. It doesn't matter what profession you have, that doesn't equate to anything in the dating world for women.
I've met just as many sluttty women with high paying jobs as the ones that were just students.

You fool yourself if you think otherwise, or just haven't dated enough yet.

Your ratio from loser to winner on an online dating site is probly 100 to 1, and like I said earlier due to the Anon aspect of those dating site they will be dating more then one guy.
Women are always about who is better for me out of a group of guys, and online dating just gives them easier access to more dudes without getting caught.

Online dating will always be a cesspool.

Best thing you can do for yourself is branch out from your current circle, do charity work , or something. Not only will it make you feel better, and you will meet way more people, but your chances of meeting someone down to earth are way more likely.
 

Eomer

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That's because guys actually work out, whereas women just talk about working out.

Also, when a guy "works out", he actually works. "Running a 5k" to a guy means just that, running. "Running a 5k" to a fat woman means walking and chatting for 3 hours.
Pretty much this. Women's concepts about physical exertion are completely and totally different than men's. They don't push themselves nearly as much as men do. When I go to the gym (fine, I haven't been in years), the majority of the women on cardio equipment aren't even sweating while the dudes doing cardio look like they are about to pass out.
 

Void

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That dude used his data to answer questions and then weight them appropriately to attract the types of women he wanted. Simply answering the questions wouldn't have worked that way. He gathered the data, divided women into distinct groups, picked the groups he wanted to date and answered his questions the way they answered theirs. This showed him at the top of their search lists because he was a super high % match for them. He then crafted two profiles, one for each of the groups he was interested in. The obvious problem with that is sure, you'll get the date, and then when they meet you they'll realize you were nothing like you pretended to be.
Just to clarify, he actually answered the questions honestly, it was which questions and what weighting they had that the data gave him. And he crafted two profiles because the two types of women answered different questions with different weights, but they were still his answers. The only thing he "lied" about was how much each answer mattered to him, which is another debate, but at least he didn't say something like he loves dogs when he really hates them, for example. He would have truthfully answered that he hated dogs, but the women he picked to match with would have, in general, hated them too, just to varying degrees. If the other group had no preference about dogs one way or another, he simply didn't answer that question.

Still manipulative, sure, but if honestly answering a question like "I don't like dogs" but only weighting it as "mostly unimportant" still knocks you down a big chunk on hundreds/thousands of profiles, he just calculated that he was better off not answering it for those profiles. Clearly he still had to impress on the date, but his main point was that he was being excluded from thousands of profiles and he couldn't figure out why.
 

Khane

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Just to clarify, he actually answered the questions honestly, it was which questions and what weighting they had that the data gave him. And he crafted two profiles because the two types of women answered different questions with different weights, but they were still his answers. The only thing he "lied" about was how much each answer mattered to him, which is another debate, but at least he didn't say something like he loves dogs when he really hates them, for example. He would have truthfully answered that he hated dogs, but the women he picked to match with would have, in general, hated them too, just to varying degrees. If the other group had no preference about dogs one way or another, he simply didn't answer that question.

Still manipulative, sure, but if honestly answering a question like "I don't like dogs" but only weighting it as "mostly unimportant" still knocks you down a big chunk on hundreds/thousands of profiles, he just calculated that he was better off not answering it for those profiles. Clearly he still had to impress on the date, but his main point was that he was being excluded from thousands of profiles and he couldn't figure out why.
Yes true, but he also kind of doctored the 2 different profiles to put up information he thought would be appealing to each group. He basically screwed himself right out of the gate. "I'm only going to talk about music and how I play the guitar and only put pictures of myself up with the guitar in this profile even though I only play it for fun every once in a while and am actually just a gigantic nerd, but I'm not gonna mention that here". He set himself up for failure.

Like the women who put up only pictures of their faces at appealing angles and lighting and never show any body shots. Obviously smarter men just ignore those profiles but I'm sure they trick some guys into thinking their about 50lbs lighter than they actually are with their "about average" bullshit body type.
 

Khane

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You sound like one of my clueless friends that tunnel visions in on one girl with online dating, then is surprised 4 months later it didn't work out.
Tunnel visioning one woman huh? Those of us who are sincere about meeting someone call that "dating". I don't care who uses these sites for what purpose but dating 4 women at a time is both insincere and a recipe for failure. I've done it. It was fun, but it was all meaningless. It was entertaining when I started screwing up the stories they had told me and talking about shit with one woman that another woman had told me on accident. Woops!

Online dating was a cesspool because you were going for the easy prey to get laid as much as possible. It's exactly what you make of it. Chances are the women you meet out in the real world through shared hobbies are also on a dating website or have used one in the past. It's the world we live in today.
 

Joeboo

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I think one of the main issues with worthless skanks vs women worth dating on online sites is the general age range you are after.

If a 21 year old woman has to resort to an online site to get a date, she is probably hideous, fat, or has some severe issues. It's easy as hell to get tons of dates when you are young and either still in school, or just recently out. You still have contact with a large number of people and you tend to go out drinking/partying/clubbing a lot more often to meet people in a more natural setting.

Once you hit the 30+ age range, people are generally settled down more, stay at home more, focus on their career more, etc. You don't have the time(or energy) to go out drinking 5 nights a week with a pack of friends. There's a lot of decent people dating through online services at 30+, because they aren't meeting many new people otherwise. They've been at the same job a while, lived in the same place a while, etc.

If you need online dating to get a date in your early 20s, you have some problems.
 

Khane

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People often to tend to throw around that "need" word when it comes to online dating a lot. As if once you sign up on a dating website you are no longer able to meet people out in life. Just because I like gin doesn't mean I can't ever drink beer again. You can have both. Broaden your horizons.
 

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Make sure you use the 'Jumbotron' rule when messaging or texting* a girl. Before you hit send, would you feel comfortable having your words up on a jumbotron in a stadium full of friends and strangers? If not - or just unsure, you need to edit, or not even reply. Its ok to reply less than a girl. They kinda like that you aren't needy.

Also applies when interacting in person. If people were watching you on a jumbotron during your conversation, you'd want to be relaxed, laid back and comfortable in your skin. Step outside yourself. If this isn't you naturally, fake it, smoke a joint, rub one out before the date, etc. Better to be less engaging and aloof than offer up a cringe-worthy nod fest of try-hard agreement.

*This rule doesn't apply when you are just sexting because we know some people are real freaks and not everyone would want to read that nasty stuff.
 

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Once you hit the 30+ age range, people are generally settled down more, stay at home more, focus on their career more, etc. You don't have the time(or energy) to go out drinking 5 nights a week with a pack of friends. There's a lot of decent people dating through online services at 30+, because they aren't meeting many new people otherwise. They've been at the same job a while, lived in the same place a while, etc
I'm still under 30. So yeah I see your point with that.
 

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Women and their general physical fitness level just baffle me sometimes. I have facebook friends from highschool that to look at their pictures, they are a total lardass but then they post pictures from running 5Ks and crap like that. My wife has a friend who apparently works out all the time, all she does is post about going to the gym, or to spin class, or whatever and she is probably beyond what you would consider chubby if you looked at her, and probably closer to the obese category, and has been for years with no real change.

On the flip side, I don't know any guys that workout regularly or do a lot of running(5Ks 10Ks, etc) that look anywhere close to fat.
Anytime my wife goes to the gym the entire world hears about it. Like the cardio only counts if at least ten people know.
 

Hatorade

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Anytime my wife goes to the gym the entire world hears about it. Like the cardio only counts if at least ten people know.
This is the reason I quit facebook, that and "we went to church today, we are better than you" status updates.
 

stupidmonkey

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This is the reason I quit facebook, that and "we went to church today, we are better than you" status updates.
That and the "You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead finger" statements every 3rd post. Now it's just the front page of reddit with memes all over the place.
 

Luthair

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That's because guys actually work out, whereas women just talk about working out.

Also, when a guy "works out", he actually works. "Running a 5k" to a guy means just that, running. "Running a 5k" to a fat woman means walking and chatting for 3 hours.
You're overstating it a bit but the vague notion is true - you can run a race, jog it or shuffle it. All down to how hard you push yourself.

Desperation and online dating don't go hand in hand. Saying every woman on a dating site is desperate is ridiculous. Sounds to me just by the way you're talking you only care about the physical aspects of a woman and you went for all the trashcan dumpster whores who had nothing but mirror glam shots, duck face selfies and retarded pictures of themselves driving their car (Why the fuck do so many women take pictures of themselves in their fucking car?)
Its not the car, its the mirror. Some girls will take a photo anywhere there is a mirror they can see themselves in: hallway, bathroom, work bathroom, public bathroom, change rooms are all apparently fair game.
 

Khane

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Its not the car, its the mirror. Some girls will take a photo anywhere there is a mirror they can see themselves in: hallway, bathroom, work bathroom, public bathroom, change rooms are all apparently fair game.
That makes sense "Oooh I look cute right now... PHOTO OP!"
 

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So what's the general consensus are the pay sites bettter? Also any advice on profile? Just moved to a completely new state and with a new job time is kind of tight right now.
 

Celebrindal

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Stick with Tinder and OK Cupid. Profile advice better on reddit's r/okc they have a sidebar to help you with do's & dont's.
 

McCheese

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One thing that this and other, similar threads has proven is that the best dating site largely depends on your area. One site might be great for one city, but it might be dead in another. I'd start with the free sites and see if they offer anything worthwhile. If not, start looking at the pay sites, and especially see if you can find out how good they are in your specific area before signing up.
 

kudos

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Tinder and PoF are the only good ones around me. OKCupid is worthless.

I think I've hit it off really well with one girl from PoF but she lives like 30 miles away in the wrong direction which kinda sucks but she's too cute and not retarded sounding like most girls on these things.