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Hah, well, when you put it like that, it sounds crazy...

Almost as if... I don't post my entire life story with full details, just a taste.

Asian chick didn't really treat me that good. She was pretty manipulative and lied regularly about lot's of little shit. (and probably big shit as well).

Girl that issues an ultimatum "Marry me or I will leave you for another man" after 5 months of dating is no bueno. Don't care how tight she was.
I guess it depends on whether she's marriage material. In general I'd say yea after 5 months thats too soon. But that doesn't mean she's crazy, just means she's looking to get married.

Doesn't this fit your whole thing, a girl in her early 20's looking to get married rather than riding the carousel for 10 years? Then when you find it, you immediately dump her?

Not trying to be antagonistic, just trying to understand your choices within your worldview.
 

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I guess it depends on whether she's marriage material. In general I'd say yea after 5 months thats too soon. But that doesn't mean she's crazy, just means she's looking to get married.

Doesn't this fit your whole thing, a girl in her early 20's looking to get married rather than riding the carousel for 10 years? Then when you find it, you immediately dump her?

Not trying to be antagonistic, just trying to understand your choices within your worldview.
She was 26, so not exactly "early 20s" she had also been previously married. And no, I didn't "immediately dump her". She gave me an ultimatum, "marry me or I will leave you for someone that will, and I actually have someone in mind". I said "ok, bye". 2 days later she called me to tell me she lied and she didn't have anyone else, I told her that I was busy on a date with someone else (true story).

I suspect that she "needed space" and just got pumped and dumped by the guy that she thought would commit, or she had sex with him and realized it wasn't as good as sex with me. Either way, I wasn't taking her back.

Some things she would decent marriage material for, other things not. She was used to being treated like a sugar baby spoiled princess by her previous husband (he died not even 13 months ago) at the age of 52, of a heart attack. There were some definite red flags (IE: she told me about 4 men in her past, but I suspect it was definitely closer to 10+). Ultimately the bigger problem is she didn't really complement me or enrich my life, she was just a hot piece of ass that I enjoyed fucking but didn't otherwise improve my life. And I didn't trust her, she didn't tell me that she was a widow until after we'd been dating for 2 months and I directly asked her about it (I figured it out on the 2nd date). She didn't tell me when she was moving to a new house until after she had already moved and she asked for help with her stuff. Little things that I'm used to from dating other women and enjoy... just never happened.. She could go multiple days without texting me, sometimes I'd be the one to break the radio silence after 3 days. So yes, having sex 12 times in a week of crazy hot amazing mind-blowing sex was cool... Hearing that she only slept with her husband twice a month (her words, so probably close to once a month)... not so good. Yes, I realize old beta bucks husband wasn't arousing to her... but Somewhere there is a happy medium. She didn't do a very good job of even pretending to be romantic, she was always about "what use are you to me"... and in her world view, I was only useful to her if I was willing to pump her full of babies and take care of her financially.

Meanwhile, even just 3 dates in, the level of trust I have for the new girl is already above what I had for the chinese girl. IE: She claims I'm the 3rd person she's had sex with, and that she's also given 2 other guys blowjobs... and sure enough, my bullshit meter didn't even blip up a notch (3 random hookup, 1 four-year boyfriend seems pretty much as good as you can get for a 20 y/o, if she wasn't at the point where I'd say 50% of guys would probably just turn her down based on appearance)... And she's much more "feminine" she texts me in the morning to ask how I slept and when I'm at work she'll ask how my day is going... It's little shit like that, that I missed while dating the chinese girl

edit: so, yes, I thought the chinese girl might have fit the bill initially, which is why I kept her around as long as I did and put up with a lot of her bullshit, but I'll let her be someone else's project now. I don't need to tie myself financially to a 26 year old working for close to minimum wage looking to become a SAHM without having decent home keeping skills while she slowly builds up more and more student loan debt.
 

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Your first mistake was trying to engage him in sincere conversation. He's bipolar. One minute he's spouting on about the tenets of gender interraction as if he's cracked the code and the very next minute he's betraying everything he just said and acting forlorn.
 

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Your first mistake was trying to engage him in sincere conversation. He's bipolar. One minute he's spouting on about the tenets of gender interraction as if he's cracked the code and the very next minute he's betraying everything he just said and acting forlorn.
Eh he's not being obnoxious here so I don't feel the need to lay into him. I disagree with his choices but I just wanted to hear what he thinks. It's probably not what I'd think in the same situation, but thats ok.
 

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I think he made the right call passing on a 26 year old Chinese widow of a 52 year old.
I mean maybe, but on the other hand maybe she knows how to take care of a man. I don't know the chick other than she's willing to date Antarius which doesn't speak well for her.
 

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If she was married, where'd the husband's money go when he died?
He was a lawyer, he had a good income, but little in savings, multiple mortgaged homes, after realtor fees and lawyer fees for splitting up the estate she didn't get anything. She also wasn't in his will, not that it matters. They had only been married for 2 years.
 

Antarius

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He was a lawyer, he had a good income, but little in savings, multiple mortgaged homes, after realtor fees and lawyer fees for splitting up the estate she didn't get anything. She also wasn't in his will, not that it matters. They had only been married for 2 years.
He also had been divorced twice prior to her. So that was his third marriage.
 

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Ah, gotcha. Was just curious. And kind of wondering if she was going to blackwidow your ass. Or whatever it's called.
 

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I wouldn't have stayed with the chink either, but I doubt I'd rebound to the friendly fat girl. Whatever makes you happy bro.
 

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I've never been with a fat chick but I imagine I'd prefer to just fuck my own hand looking at some hot chicks on the internet than do a whale
 

Xarpolis

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I've never had a fat chick either. It just doesn't interest me. I know it works for some, but I'm too focused on their appearance. I prefer a "cute" girl, more so than hot.
 

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Dating a 240lbs woman on the off chance she lose half her weight in the coming years is just insane to me. Best case scenario she drops to 140lbs in 4-5 years and somehow her skin doesn't turn to hell. Well, you're still fucking someone not attractive for 4 years and that's the best case scenario.

nope nope nope nope nope
 

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2lbs a week is fairly safe weight loss, 1lb a week is even better for retaining muscle. But 2lbs is easily doable if you're consistent with your diet, and even more is attainable if you're obese. BEST case is 4 years? No. Hell, I went from 250 to 220 in 3 months just by switching from regular soda to diet which cut 800 calories a day out of my routine. Total time for me to get from 250 to 180 was 2 years, and I was TERRIBLE about being consistent, and at 33 it's not as easy as it would have been at 23. After that, it's just been a struggle to gain muscle and lose fat, which has been slow but steady progress, but my weight itself has been relatively consistent. I see MANY people on /progresspics on reddit boasting success stories of losing 70+ lbs in a single year.

I'll admit, her skin is fucked no matter what she does. She has the fact that she's only 20 working in her favor, but she's just going to need some kind of cosmetic surgery at some point to remove loose skin. I've been with a few women who have tummy tucks after having a kid, it's not the worst thing in the world.