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mkopec_sl said:
Not that simple, friend. Again, I was brought up by a single mom, and raised by a feminist society. Always being told the good guys always win in the end. Be nice and reap the rewards. Well life does not work that way, hence the need to "unplug".
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I'm 30, also raised by a single mother. I never, once, at all thought "good guys win in the end." All you, me, or any other man ever had to do was look at the men in the media that woman were fawning over and aspire to those characteristics. Handsome, charismatic, leader, patient, fair, just... etc etc etc -- these aren't new concepts. Go all the way back to Homer; many of the things that men desire in women and vice versa have remained relatively static.

I don't mean this as a personal attack; but when I hear a man attempt to blame society for deceiving him... I hear someone attempting to rationalize their own laziness and ignorance. Mind if I ask you what your BMI has been throughout your marriage, your health/fitness, and how much effort you think you've put towards looking good?
 
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mkopec_sl said:
Not that simple, friend. Again, I was brought up by a single mom, and raised by a feminist society. Always being told the good guys always win in the end. Be nice and reap the rewards. Well life does not work that way, hence the need to "unplug".

Sadly its getting worse too. More single parent homes (90% being mothers) and schools ran by women which preach feminist views, do not accept boys for what they are, instead trying to get them them into acting like the girls. Dont believe me? Research it a bit, I dont have time.
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I'll have to agree with this. I was raised by a single mother in a household with three other sisters (even four at a certain point). I did get to see my dad every second weekend and he did his best to counter the overwhelming female influence, but his time/abilities were limited. Mom/sisters would constantly hammer the "nice guy finish first" mantra along with crap like "get your date flowers". From a high school/college dating standpoint their advice was pretty much a pussy repellent. I feel that in their mind (mom+sisters) they truly consciously believed the tripe they were feeding me, but when I realized that they were ignoring the guy with flowers and dating the guy with the tats and motorcycle, there was some obvious dissonance going on. It was only after living away from home and travelling around the world that I matured and came to my own conclusions of what women really wanted, and it was rarely what they actually stated...
 
Himeo

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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
Yeah but Red Pill assumes you need to be masculine she needs to be submissive. The end goal is lots of sex. She learns her place and you become a leader and on and on and on.
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You don't get it, a_skeleton_03. It's not about a man forcing a woman to submit. Make no mistake about it, you are the slave and your wife is the slave master. Red Pill is designed to make you a better slave to serve your woman's wants and desires.

It's useful that you don't see yourself as a slave.
 
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Go ahead and give me a list of things that make me, a_skeleton_03, a slave to my wife. Don't give generic BS but list why you think I personally am a slave to my wife.
 
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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
Go ahead and give me a list of things that make me, a_skeleton_03, a slave to my wife. Don't give generic BS but list why you think I personally am a slave to my wife.
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I can only give you a generic list without a deep understand of the personal life you live. A subject I have less interest in than your wife does.
 
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So you can without a doubt say that I am a slave without knowing anything at all about my personal life.

Why don't you give me the top 5 generic highlights.
 
Himeo

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1. You're married. Under the laws of the land you live in, your wife can leave you take half of your shit now, and if you have children and depending on how long you've been married to her, extort money from you via the state for the next 18+ years of your life, even after you've retired.
2. Your property (House, Car, Money) are legally hers, in fact if not in title. This is backed up by the state.
3. Your wife can, at any time and without evidence, have you evicted from your home by a false accusation of domestic violence to the police. You can be arrested at any time with a word from her, without recourse.
4. If you desired to get a vasectomy, the doctor will not give you one without permission from your wife.
5. In most American families, the man makes more money than the wife, and the wife controls the spending of the household.

There's a reason people call it a "ball and chain".
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1.) She makes more than me and I can take half of everything of hers as well. I am a war vet and the kids could easily come to me instead of her.

2.) All that property of hers is mine also.

3.) I have helped Marines evict and even commit their wife to a psych ward over domestic violence.

4.) I did get a vasectomy and made sure I asked that question and my doctor said he would do it without any permission for every patient. There is zero legal requirement.

5.) I make 20k/yr less than my wife. I spend exactly what I want and when I want. On her most recent birthday I bought a Harley for myself and got her a $50 wine tasting tour with her friend.

You cannot make bullshit generalizations all your life and think they will hold up. You can't make stupid anecdotal statements and then do what you will do next and explain my wife away as an anecdote. You are just as guilty.

The major problem with red pill is that it puts men into a binary state. You are an alpha or you are a beta, that is it. This is bullshit, a person is so much more nuanced than that. I have aspects of alpha and beta depending on how involved I want to be in that aspect of our marriage. We have a partnership. Why? What makes me special? I actually knew and cared about my wife before making a lifetime decision like marriage. I don't need to figure out how to get what I want. I have what I want. She has what she wants. I miss the size of her tits after breastfeeding twins changed them. She misses my perfectly flat stomach. We tell each other things and actually communicate.

You don't need to figure out how to mold your wife to what you want or change yourself into some alpha. You need to have chosen a better wife to begin with.
 
Siddar

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Red pill is about molding yourself into what the women your after wants not molding the women.

Basic rule of life is you cant change other people only yourself.
 
Siddar

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Oh buying a 20k harley for yourself and giving her a $50 present was a real dick move. Even the ultra red pillers would likely say that was a very high risk way to establish dominance.
 
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Siddar_sl said:
Oh buying a 20k harley for yourself and giving her a $50 present was a real dick move. Even the ultra red pillers would likely say that was a very high risk way to establish dominance.
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That is the entire point. It wasn't a power move. I wanted it, we bought it. She doesn't hold the purse strings.
 
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Himeo_sl said:
"Yeah, bro. It's totally your fault the landmine you stepped on wasn't a dud like mine. Should of picked a better landmine, dummy."
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Maybe get to know yourself and then actually get to know a woman before marrying them ....

Maybe if you weren't picking up random skanks and having actual conversations you might get far in life ...
 
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I love how my response to each individual claim you made is completely ignored and just a one liner thrown out and you wonder why women don't communicate their real thoughts to you.
 
Siddar

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It's not that you bought it its the relationship between what you gave her and what you gave yourself.

You should have spent 10 20% of cost of the Harley on a gift for her.

You delivered a serious insult to your wife even if both of you don't see it that way.
 
Himeo

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Maybe you fucked up by getting married ...

Maybe you'll agree with Red Pillers after your wife divorces you ...

But, maybe not. You've proven yourself incapable of seeing reason not only in this thread but in the Atheism / Religion thread.

Thanks for your service to my country, a_skeleton_03. Being a marine, you've seen your fellows getting divorced at twice the rate of the general public. You've been exposed to the absolute dregs of the dating pool and had to help another marine evict his batshit crazy wife because HIS word wasn't enough. He had to get help. The system is stacked against men.

But you AREN'T a slave, because your wife let you buy a motorcycle. It all makes sense.
 
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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
I love how my response to each individual claim you made is completely ignored and just a one liner thrown out and you wonder why women don't communicate their real thoughts to you.
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Are you serious? Did you want a response? I thought your shit was so obviously countered that it wasn't worth the trouble.

Are you trolling?
 
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Siddar_sl said:
It's not that you bought it its the relationship between what you gave her and what you gave yourself.

You should have spent 10 20% of cost of the Harley on a gift for her.

You delivered a serious insult to your wife even if both of you don't see it that way.
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It is how I get to and from work. We both buy what we want when we want ... Some years we both just give no gifts, some years I give her a Mediterranean cruise and she gives me a card and we go out to dinner.

The point of a real relationship is you aren't hung up on silly bullshit like what the other person can spend money on. You don't need to assert dominance in giving gifts. You don't need some kind of tit for tat all the time, quid pro quo. You don't have a price tag on displays of love.

I bought a vehicle to get to and from work and you think it is an insult to my wife because I spent $8k on a motorcycle instead of a Honda Accord.
 
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Himeo_sl said:
Maybe you fucked up by getting married ...

Maybe you'll agree with Red Pillers after your wife divorces you ...

But, maybe not. You've proven yourself incapable of seeing reason not only in this thread but in the Atheism / Religion thread.

Thanks for your service to my country, a_skeleton_03. Being a marine, you've seen your fellows getting divorced at twice the rate of the general public. You've been exposed to the absolute dregs of the dating pool and had to help another marine evict his batshit crazy wife because HIS word wasn't enough. He had to get help. The system is stacked against men.

But you AREN'T a slave, because your wife let you buy a motorcycle. It all makes sense.
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Every divorce I saw was because they married with their dick and didn't know the girl at all. Anyone looking at it from the outside saw every problem a mile away.

I helped him evict his wife and put her in the hospital because I was the boss of both of them. The MP's had me come and get her.

You date shitty women you get shitty wives but that doesn't mean all women are shitty.
 
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