Science!! Fucking magnets, how do they work?

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture02121.html

Exploring three approaches in which the estimated probability of extinction shows a power-law relationship with geographical range size, we predict, on the basis of mid-range climate-warming scenarios for 2050, that 15-37% of species in our sample of regions and taxa will be 'committed to extinction'. When the average of the three methods and two dispersal scenarios is taken, minimal climate-warming scenarios produce lower projections of species committed to extinction (~18%) than mid-range (~24%) and maximum-change (~35%) scenarios. These estimates show the importance of rapid implementation of technologies to decrease greenhouse gas emissions and strategies for carbon sequestration.

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Cited over 4000 times. Losing 24-35% of the life on this planet means most of the edible animals won't be alive.

You cannot live on animal food stuffs alone.

Eskimo lifestyles couldn't support 100 thousand people, and if the Northern regions have melted due to climate change, Eskimo lifestyles won't exist any more (already don't) and all those large mammals would be dead as well.

You're spitting in the wind here, tard.

General would be enough.

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And you were given multiple general scenarios, including angiosperm demise, bee demise, etc. and you demanded a specific COMPETITOR that would wipe us out.

You're dumb, not a scientist, clearly understand NOTHING about biology, nutrition, human evolution and adaptation, artificial selection, or pretty much anything else on this topic.

I posit that we won't starve as long as edible animals walk the earth, because we can kill ANYTHING.

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35% of the world's lifeforms die off in climate change. Cad's solution?

KILL SOME MORE OF THEM.

And this is why you are an idiot.

But are we going to go extinct? no. Thats my position.

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That's nice.What is your degree in biology, anthropology, ecology, or climatology again?

Your POSITION is an OPINION founded upon YOUR IGNORANCE. Its not an argument. Its not a defense. Its you jacking off into the wind.

And your POSITION was actually that

Cad_sl said:

The idea that the temperature goes up 5-10 degrees and we go extinct is ludicrous. We might all need to move to canada and our population might decrease but the idea that we are ALL going to die is just asinine.

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FIVE TO TEN DEGREES temperature increases WOULD CERTAINLY MEAN WE GO EXTINCT. Particularly if those changes occur over the course of a few hundred years, rather than tens to hundreds of thousands or more. That's a fact. you can take that fucker to the bank and cash it.

No I didn't say any of that. Sorry.

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Well I just cited you saying we'd move to northern Canada to survive.

Heres you claiming that the agricultural industrial complex will somehow survive this event and allow us to survive indefinitely by inventing magic crop technologies

Cad_sl said:

You're acting like our entire agricultural industry can't figure out how to sustain 50 or 100 thousand people somewhere on earth even in the event of climate catastrophe. Thats all it would take to weather an event for X years and avoid extinction.

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So forth.

So yes, you did.

The funniest part of this

Cad_sl said:

You're acting like our entire agricultural industry can't figure out how to sustain 50 or 100 thousand people somewhere on earth even in the event of climate catastrophe. Thats all it would take to weather an event for X years and avoid extinction.

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By the way is the expectation that "Well we'll just survive X amount of years and therefore avoid extinction"

Yeah, we're really going to magic up a solution that allows us to survive a 25,000 year climate spike scenario. You know. That's only TWICE AS LONG AS AGRICULTURE HAS EXISTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. But somehow, just because Cad can't admit that human extinction is a possibility, we'll just use our magitech to invent magic crop technology that allows us to survive twice as long as modern civilizations has existed, and agriculture has existed, because well that's just how brilliant we are.

Lol.

By the end of that time period, this planet wouldn't even be recognizable.

Kedwyn_sl said:

No hydroponics either.

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You mean the most intensive agriculture system known to man, that requires SYNTHETIC fertilizers, and CONSTANT pesticide and near perfect temperature control?

Yeah good luck manufacturing all that shit with 100k people stuff in northern nunavut.

Cad_sl said:

And if it's not recognizable, we must be extinct!

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Yeah, we will most certainly be extinct in that scenario. So will pretty much all large and medium sized fauna and most modern flora.

Horselaugh and a complete inability to support your position with this thing called facts isn't a rebuttal.

No species that has invented air conditioning or hydroponics in outer fucking space has ever survived where it is 5-10 degrees hotter*. That is a fact. We are doomed.

*excluding New Mexico

Yep. Still waiting on Cad to provide anything but happy smoke blowing bullshit and fallacies for evidence of his position.

Will be waiting all night for it.

ZyyzYzzy_sl said:

Explicitly stating the human population can't recover from 100k is retarded, it may or may not. Only one way to find out.

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Its just a stupid arbitrary number Cad has selected.

Its a complete non sequitor.

Human survival will be the least of the planet's worries after we've successfully wiped out a large portion of the planet's lifeform with our hubris and short sightedness.

You have had enough biology and ecology classes to know that the keystone species issue, and the ecological collapse issues from a 5 to 10 degree world wide climate increase would threaten most life on this planet as we know it that isn't a microbe.

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But guys, hodj is in college! Respect his mastery of all things, he is an expert! Isn't it obvious?

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Clearly on this topic, I know quite a bit more, and you dipshits all running to jump on the bandwagon because I'm passionate on the issue isn't changing that fact.

Would you like to inform us how we generate hydroponic systems when 50 to 100k of us live in the most marginal terrains on the planet, while the rest of the planet is a fucking desert?

All you have to do is look at how fucked agriculture is in California right now to see the effects of climate change on human society.

One of the planet's breadbaskets is being turned into a flaming desert.

The western aquifers are nearly dry. Dust bowl anyone?

Please.