Science!! Fucking magnets, how do they work?
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hodj
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I see Cad et al have ceded this argument and are just now going to try and trash me because I happen to give a shit about things like, you know, the planet, and humans, and so forth.
Your EXPLICIT admission of defeat is accepted.
During a time before modernity, when the planet was still filled with biodiversity, lots of animal life, lots of places for humans to move to to thrive. Completely different scenario. And we only survived it based on luck.
How Human Beings Almost Vanished From Earth In 70,000 B.C. : Krulwich Wonders... : NPR
Your EXPLICIT admission of defeat is accepted.
Yeah, I already posted about that. It was as few as 600.
During a time before modernity, when the planet was still filled with biodiversity, lots of animal life, lots of places for humans to move to to thrive. Completely different scenario. And we only survived it based on luck.
How Human Beings Almost Vanished From Earth In 70,000 B.C. : Krulwich Wonders... : NPR
Relying on luck to survive when we are what we are today is fucking STUPID.
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5000 people, all closely related? Sounds like a poon dream for a man from Kentucky
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hodj
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The only reason you are able to live there is because there is infrastructure and society outside those deserts that imports food to you.
And if you're out west, where the ogallala aquifer is running bare bones dry, shits going to get a lot more expensive to live there as time goes on.
Cad
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You know that you and Tanoomba have the victory laps in common, right? Even when everyone is laughing at you?
Abefroman
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Hate to break it to you. Arizona grows a fuck ton of food. Also all those fucking California people will be drowned so all that sweet water will be ours.
hodj
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The entire planet could laugh at Galileo and declare that the Earth does not revolve around the sun.
Eppur si muove
Google it.
When I have the facts on my side, I couldn't care less how much someone like you laughs. I couldn't care less who you compare me to.
End of the day, it still moves.
hodj
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Yeah that whole region pretty much relies on one or two major underground resevoirs that are pretty much scraping the barrel though in terms of water availability.
Yeah. I mean I have all the science, all the facts on my side. 97% of the world's scientists agree with me.
A forum full of people who are united by their infatuation with a dead video game genre's opinions in the face of that is about as credible as the Catholic Church's opposition to Galileo's knowledge.
Your ignorance is not the equivalent of my justified true knowledge.
Its that simple, Cad.
Never will be.
Also people just like to bag on me when I get emotionally invested in a discussion. That's fine too.
Doesn't change the fact that your best argument is "NUH UH! That can't happen because MAGIC TECHNOLOGY will SPARE US!"
Meanwhile I'm citing to you peer reviewed research that's been cited over 4000 times, and the opinions of the VAST OVERWHELMING SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS of the MAJORITY of the world's best scientists.
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This is incorrect. Arizona has many different sources of water. Too bad we don't have the tech to turn salt water into fresh water and pump it long distances if things got really bad. Also would help if we could some how harness the sun to power these plants if needed or maybe work on that whole nuclear thing we never got around to. We are doomed.
Cad
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Its hopeless, 35% of species might die off, so technological solutions are hopeless. Sorry.
hodj
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Technological solutions don't just appear out of thin air.
So trying to rely on prognosticating magical future inventions that don't exist yet, and wouldn't in a situation where most of human society has collapsed, isn't an argument.
Its just not. Its exactly what HITLER was doing in the BUNKER as the SOVIETS CLOSED IN ON BERLIN.
Its treating technology as MAGIC. Its mystical thinking. Pretending that solutions just appear magically out of thin air. All scientific advances are born on the backs of previous discoveries, and rely on a large enough population to support the sorts of research needed.
As wormie and I already pointed out, the "Oh well, when the problem arrives it'll solve itself by magic, we're special" thinking is what will be the thing that PREVENTS such technology from being DEVELOPED IN TIME TO BE USEFUL in the first place.
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I honestly don't get this argument at all. I don't think anyone is in favor of climate change and warming the earth and shit, we as a species have teraformed the planet and will continue to do so no matter what is thrown at us. We sadly will wait till many people start to die but we will do it.
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In other news, were close to finally disproving the shitty gravitational theories in general relativity.Upgraded LIGO will begin hunt for gravitational waves soon - physicsworld.com
If gravity waves aren't detected in the next few years, they are essentially completely debunked.
If gravity waves aren't detected in the next few years, they are essentially completely debunked.
hodj
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[citation required]
Also, I didn't mention any technologies, because what we would need to ensure humanity survived in Northern Nunavut after 35% of the planet's life died off doesn't exist yet.