Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (2021)

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Chukzombi

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Feige sticking his foot in his mouth more and more.

At the premiere, Feige also noted “Shang-Chi” felt similarly impactful to audiences and culture as “Black Panther” did.


“When you have the opportunity to showcase a hero that looks like a huge segment of the globe that feels like they haven’t been showcased, the magic can happen if you deliver. I think [director] Destin (Daniel Cretton) and Simu have delivered for this movie,” he added.
 
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lol Shang Chi is supposed to showcase a hero that looks like a huge segment of the globe, yet the movie has no scheduled release date in China. Once a movie releases in the west and its more than a month or two it won't get a Chinese release. Thats like releasing Black Panther only in Vermont.

So both Eternals and Shang Chi are unlikely to get chinese box office money at this point, and they are both heavily asian involved - stars with Shang Chi, Eternals director is Chloe Zao who is in hot water with the CCP for comments made.
 

Chukzombi

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lol Shang Chi is supposed to showcase a hero that looks like a huge segment of the globe, yet the movie has no scheduled release date in China. Once a movie releases in the west and its more than a month or two it won't get a Chinese release. Thats like releasing Black Panther only in Vermont.

So both Eternals and Shang Chi are unlikely to get chinese box office money at this point, and they are both heavily asian involved - stars with Shang Chi, Eternals director is Chloe Zao who is in hot water with the CCP for comments made.
Feige's been acting really stupid lately. i think he blew his wad with phase 3.

and they still havent decided if they will release Eternals theatrically yet.

When asked by Variety whether audiences will be watching Eternals on the big screen or from home, Feige responded: "I think a theater would be my preference, and Chloé [Zhao, director]'s preference. We will see where we go with it."
 

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Presumably Shang Chi was in production long before the 'rona landed but it surely has been impacted by anti-Chinese sentiment as a result.

It'll get the finger from plenty of Western audiences and won't be allowed to be screened to the Eastern ones so the mouse will no doubt be stung by this.

That aside from the fact Western martial arts movies/shows just generally fucking suck and the Eastern ones are usually so tied up in mystical bullshit and wirework it's beyond a joke.
 

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Current China-movie embargo is all movies, not just Shang Chi or even just Disney. They pulled out all US production to preserve their delta-variant depressed box office for Chinese productions. The last US movie to open in China was Peter Rabbit 2.

China is blocking Shang Chi the same as they are blocking The Suicide Squad, Black Widow, Jungle Cruise, Free Guy, Nu-Space Jam. Whatever. If China opens their screens to US movies again, they'll all get a shot.
 
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spronk

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they did allow Godzilla v Kong and Fast 9 but both are also international productions etc
 

Chukzombi

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Presumably Shang Chi was in production long before the 'rona landed but it surely has been impacted by anti-Chinese sentiment as a result.

It'll get the finger from plenty of Western audiences and won't be allowed to be screened to the Eastern ones so the mouse will no doubt be stung by this.

That aside from the fact Western martial arts movies/shows just generally fucking suck and the Eastern ones are usually so tied up in mystical bullshit and wirework it's beyond a joke.
thats why a heavy kung fu movie like Matrix works while 99% of the US has never even heard of The Shaw Brothers's films. cut the mysticism down, insert a white guy and put in some watered down martial arts and slow down the action. instant money maker.
 

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Feige sticking his foot in his mouth more and more.

At the premiere, Feige also noted “Shang-Chi” felt similarly impactful to audiences and culture as “Black Panther” did.


“When you have the opportunity to showcase a hero that looks like a huge segment of the globe that feels like they haven’t been showcased, the magic can happen if you deliver. I think [director] Destin (Daniel Cretton) and Simu have delivered for this movie,” he added.

So f'n tired of everyone being outraged over everything. You have to say everything 100% perfect now or risk being the target of the social media karens and kyles. God forbid you mispeak, state an opposing opinion, or just be flat out wrong. This generation needs to get over themselves.
 

Chukzombi

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So f'n tired of everyone being outraged over everything. You have to say everything 100% perfect now or risk being the target of the social media karens and kyles. God forbid you mispeak, state an opposing opinion, or just be flat out wrong. This generation needs to get over themselves.
these people have themselves to blame. they bend over backwards to appease the same ten weirdos on twitter who dont even pay for their products.
 
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Lanx

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i'll tell you the lowdown

china asians do not want asians speaking english on the big screen, it is beyond offensive

the fu man chu racism, no one in china cares about, b/c no one in china watched flash gordon (or associated fu man chu ness)

it is just disgusting to have asians speak english in china.

it's like how dingers and karens perceive mr popo to be blackface racist
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like, he's not even black, he's fucking alladin that needs to join weight watchers, look at how he's dressed! and he rides a fucking magic carpet.
 
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Chukzombi

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i'll tell you the lowdown

china asians do not want asians speaking english on the big screen, it is beyond offensive

the fu man chu racism, no one in china cares about, b/c no one in china watched flash gordon (or associated fu man chu ness)

it is just disgusting to have asians speak english in china.

it's like how dingers and karens perceive mr popo to be blackface racist
fc4363e87c773a1632cac3fc88083073.png


like, he's not even black, he's fucking alladin that needs to join weight watchers, look at how he's dressed! and he rides a fucking magic carpet.
it makes no sense for them to be speaking in english. its like in movies where German nazis would speak in the Queen's English. the real truth, is that the movie studios dont like putting shit in subtitles. the popular complaint is "i want to watch a movie, not read it" . its a real thing, but the answer to that is then dont place the movie in fucking china. just have it be white guys or american asians who discovered their ancient past or whatever.
 

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these people have themselves to blame. they bend over backwards to appease the same ten weirdos on twitter who dont even pay for their products.

I don't know how Hollywood finances work, but I do know that they get much more share of a domestic gross than the international one (hence why we track both), and Black Panther and Captain Marvel are the 2nd and 6th highest grossing domestically (all the others being the Avengers movies), so, depending on what the revenue share is for Disney/Marvel's international distributors are, it kinda seems like they are paying enough for their liking.

Shang-Chi obviously won't have anywhere near those numbers due to the current movie release reality, but we will be able to see how it stacks up to Widow, Fast 9, Space Jam, Free Guy, etc
 

Chukzombi

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I don't know how Hollywood finances work, but I do know that they get much more share of a domestic gross than the international one (hence why we track both), and Black Panther and Captain Marvel are the 2nd and 6th highest grossing domestically (all the others being the Avengers movies), so, depending on what the revenue share is for Disney/Marvel's international distributors are, it kinda seems like they are paying enough for their liking.

Shang-Chi obviously won't have anywhere near those numbers due to the current movie release reality, but we will be able to see how it stacks up to Widow, Fast 9, Space Jam, Free Guy, etc
Captain Marvel was marketed as a must see because of Endgame. you can dismiss that shit right there. Black Panther was a jogger event. it was promoted on radio. even in schools. fucking jogger schools were targetted for this hype.
 

Lanx

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Captain Marvel was marketed as a must see because of Endgame. you can dismiss that shit right there. Black Panther was a jogger event. it was promoted on radio. even in schools. fucking jogger schools were targetted for this hype.

also dinger celebs boughtout movie theatres for ding-lets to see
 
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review embargo is up, currently 70/100 on MC and 92% on RT. Spiderman Homecoming was at 73/100 and 92%.



sounds like pretty much every other mid tier MCU movie like Black Widow or Ant Man. It'll be on Disney+ for subs (no extra $) in 45 days, i'll just wait
 
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Chukzombi

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review embargo is up, currently 70/100 on MC and 92% on RT. Spiderman Homecoming was at 73/100 and 92%.



sounds like pretty much every other mid tier MCU movie like Black Widow or Ant Man. It'll be on Disney+ for subs (no extra $) in 45 days, i'll just wait

do critics ever give bad reviews to marvel films?