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Gravel

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She only represented Raviga's stake on the board, she didn't have a voting seat of her own.
I thought there was something she said where she believed in the company so much, she bought in with her own money? And that they ended up giving her a board vote?

But maybe you're right and the voting seat was just acting on behalf of the company.
 

Khane

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I just don't get firing him as the CEO. Do they expect to be able to re-hire him at a lower position and he'll go for it because it's his baby? I mean I guess that could work by him going for it but there is no way Raviga doesn't realize they absolutely need him because he is the brain behind the product. Him having a stake in the company doesn't mean shit if he isn't actively coding for it. And all the other companies not being able to even come close to matching his software even when he basically gives them the code is proof of that.
 

Asshat wormie

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I just don't get firing him as the CEO. Do they expect to be able to re-hire him at a lower position and he'll go for it because it's his baby? I mean I guess that could work by him going for it but there is no way Raviga doesn't realize they absolutely need him because he is the brain behind the product. Him having a stake in the company doesn't mean shit if he isn't actively coding for it. And all the other companies not being able to even come close to matching his software even when he basically gives them the code is proof of that.
Wat? What do you think Hooli was suing PP for? Richards brain or the intellectual property of the company? Who gives two shits about Richard?
 

Sterling

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I just don't get firing him as the CEO. Do they expect to be able to re-hire him at a lower position and he'll go for it because it's his baby? I mean I guess that could work by him going for it but there is no way Raviga doesn't realize they absolutely need him because he is the brain behind the product. Him having a stake in the company doesn't mean shit if he isn't actively coding for it. And all the other companies not being able to even come close to matching his software even when he basically gives them the code is proof of that.
He still owns a fuckton of the company, he just wouldn't be making executive decisions which while shitty is something that does happen. He certainly hasn't been particularly competent at the business side of things.
 

Khane

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Wat? What do you think Hooli was suing PP for? Richards brain or the intellectual property of the company? Who gives two shits about Richard?
Yes, Hooli wanted the architecture to make nucleus work, but that was a desperation play. There was no other option. Raviga HAS the software either way. Why risk firing the brains behind everything and having him go off and re-inventing it yet again even better, or risk the people they hire to come in and keep the ship afloat not understanding enough of it and making it completely unscalable? The software is not done. They are stupid to piss him off.

A better play would be to keep him as CEO but just take a more active role in coaching or even taking over the business side of things. I don't get the impression thus far that he would absolutely not go for that. They already have one very savvy business person on the team, it's not like Richard is actively fucking over everything. They've gotten screwed a lot but that has little to do with Richard's current lack of serious business acumen and more to do with absolutely retarded shit like a tequila bottle hitting the delete button.

He's actually helped turn a lot of dire situations around, if only briefly, through his charming innocence and genuine sincerity about how much he wants to make GOOD software that could change everything. He was the reason for the bake-off. Why is everyone pretending he was a moron who was bumbling at every turn?
 

Asshat wormie

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The value is in the algorithm that Richard came up with, not the systems that run it. Plus I doubt Raviga knows all the little details. All they are seeing are the fuck ups that are happening one after another. Firing the person in charge seems like the correct move.
 

Khane

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The value is in the algorithm that Richard came up with, not the systems that run it. Plus I doubt Raviga knows all the little details. All they are seeing are the fuck ups that are happening one after another. Firing the person in charge seems like the correct move.
You do understand that software development is never ending right? And that Richard was smart enough to make his own algorithm perform twice as effectively in only a few hours, and that they've already shown the platform is not yet scalable or done and that he is the smartest one on planet earth when it comes to compression. He gave a competitor his software by explaining it in gory detail and they still can't even come close to his current software.

This isn't a patent, the head of Raviga is being incredibly short-sighted, and so are you, if you think the only thing that matters is his current algorithm and he is inconsequential.

Why wouldn't they just coach him for the time being and help the company along before just knee-jerk firing him? He literally hasn't done anything to sabotage the company, everyone in this thread agrees the shitstorms at the end of every episode are getting old and tired because the team is just victims of happenstance and absurdity.
 

Asshat wormie

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You do understand that software development is never ending right? And that Richard was smart enough to make his own algorithm perform twice as effectively in only a few hours, and that they've already shown the platform is not yet scalable or done and that he is the smartest one on planet earth when it comes to compression. He gave a competitor his software by explaining it in gory detail and they still can't even come close to his current software.

This isn't a patent, the head of Raviga is being incredibly short-sighted, and so are you, if you think the only thing that matters is his current algorithm and he is inconsequential.

Why wouldn't they just coach him for the time being and help the company along before just knee-jerk firing him? He literally hasn't done anything to sabotage the company, everyone in this thread agrees the shitstorms at the end of every episode are getting old and tired because the team is just victims of happenstance and absurdity.
Are you claiming that the value of the company is Richard himself and not what he created?
 

popsicledeath

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I know, right, hasn't the aspy head of Raviga been watching the show to realize how so many scenes were built on Richard's charming innocence and genuine sincerity?!

I mean, he's still majority owner and they're going to fire him completely and ask security to keep him from the building and not let him even think about the product and be forced to start a new company to build the exact same thing and then go through more legal battles.

I mean, he's the star of the show, and everyone else in the show should start realizing it and make their business decisions inside the show reflect the actor's importance!
 

Khane

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No. No he doesn't.
Yes, yes I do. I even said so in the very first post:

Do they expect to be able to re-hire him at a lower position and he'll go for it because it's his baby? I mean I guess that could work by him going for it but there is no way Raviga doesn't realize they absolutely need him because he is the brain behind the product.
I acknowledge they will probably attempt to keep him on the team, but that's risky since he doesn't want to just be a cog, he wants to have control of his company based on his brainchild. Or are all of you convinced he'd just roll over and take it and that Raviga isn't going a little too cart in front of the horse?
 

Khane

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Are you claiming that the value of the company is Richard himself and not what he created?
I am claiming that Richard is more valuable than what he created because what he created isn't finished and both of the two other companies that reverse engineered his code have showed they were incapable of creating anything that even comes close to what he can create.
 

The Ancient_sl

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I am claiming that Richard is more valuable than what he created because what he created isn't finished and both of the two other companies that reverse engineered his code have showed they were incapable of creating anything that even comes close to what he can create.
And you seem to think that if he's not controlling the company he's going to what...ignore the product he has an extremely vested interest in the success of?
 

Asshat wormie

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I am claiming that Richard is more valuable than what he created because what he created isn't finished and both of the two other companies that reverse engineered his code have showed they were incapable of creating anything that even comes close to what he can create.
But piped piper doesnt have to reverse engineer anything. They have the actual algorithm.
 

Khane

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And you seem to think that if he's not controlling the company he's going to what...ignore the product he has an extremely vested interest in the success of?
There are people who would and people who wouldn't. Richard's character strikes me as the kind of person who doesn't care about the money as much as he cares about creating and being part of the creation of something monumental. So yes, I think he would leave the company. Everything he's done up until this point, every decision he's made and how he's acted tells me that. Are you and I watching different shows? Richard, just this very episode, showed us he'd rather delete the entire fucking platform than give it up.

All I am saying is that is doesn't really make sense to me that this supposedly ridiculous woman who makes decisions with unyielding logic and resolve and has said she plays the numbers and avoids undue risk would just pull a power play and fire him when so much risk revolves around that move. Doesn't seem to fit the portrait that's been painted for us. There are people who would absolutely do that kind of thing, she doesn't seem like one of those people to me.

The writing is getting disjointed.
 

Khane

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But piped piper doesnt have to reverse engineer anything. They have the actual algorithm.
You're still not understanding that the platform is not finished, software development never is, and firing the best in the world at what he does (they fired him by the way, they didn't say "we're shifting duties". And they did it over the phone) isn't a smart move and is incredibly short sighted. Especially for an investment firm that specializes in software.
 

The Ancient_sl

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There are people who would and people who wouldn't. Richard's character strikes me as the kind of person who doesn't care about the money as much as he cares about creating and being part of the creation of something monumental.
Exactly, he'd care more about seeing his baby change the world than having control over the management side of things, I'm glad you are figuring this out.
 

Khane

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Exactly, he'd care more about seeing his baby change the world than having control over the management side of things, I'm glad you are figuring this out.
What? He just told them to delete the entire goddamn thing? Did you miss that part of the episode?