Star Trek: Discovery

Sad part is, that glimer of the promise the show found in it's final season? It really could have been "The next, next generation". It was poised to be that good. I think people just wanted to see the early federation, how hard was that to deliver? The Romulan war that gets talked about in the OST (The one fought with nuclear weapons still) could have been the whole damn series, if they wanted.

They could set Season 1 up with the Vulcans being like dickish parents towards the humans, and treating them essentially like teenagers (Old enough to have some freedom, young enough to still be retarded). Have the humans play into this (Which they kind of did in Seasonon 1)...by doing things that seem smart/right but end up making a mess because we don't understand the greater complexities and have the Vulcans always there to clean up (And really show both sides, how the Vulcans struggle with making sure we stay safe and how we struggle to find out way). Have it culminate in kind of a falling out between Humanity and Vulcans. Season 2 starts with humans "really" being on their own and finally realizing how much the Vulcans did for them, and realizing that despite our rapid advancement, we still are, pretty much, ignorant to the greater universe (This would be symbolic of most people turning 25ish, and entering the work force and realizing how fucking stupid their 18ish self was.)

However, before there is a reconciliation, we learn part of the reasons the Vulcans pushed the humans away at the end of Season 1 was not just the falling out, but because they were attacked by Romulans, and were trying to keep Earth out of it. With a new found sense of responsibility, humanity comes into it's own and over the next few seasons earns it's place as "protectors" of the federation (And the defacto head of starfleet within the federation) by saving the Vulcans and beating back the Romulans. Earning the respect of the older races, and leading to the formation of the Federation.

Anyway, I just don't get their course of action. There is some pretty rich back story they could have used. Roddenberry was terrible with details, but his broad strokes were good. Why they chose these bullshit story lines is beyond me.

Araysar_sl said:

Enterprise theme was awesome


ITS BEEN A LONG TIME, GETTING FROM HERE TO THERE

When I'd go sailing with friends on Lake Michigan, i still make them crank it up to 11 as we pull out of the slip and the marina.

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When did you realise you were "special?"

lurkingdirk_sl said:

The worst part about Enterprise was the title song. What the heck was that crap?

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Want to hurt your ears? Listen to theoriginal versionit's slower and shitttier. I genuinely like Rod Stewart and enjoy the Enterprise version but yeah, Star Trek needs to open with an orgasim inducing orchestral masterpiece set to sweeping views of the ship passing space scenery that would absolutely make Neil Degrasse Tyson just loose his shit or it can damn well open in silence. I'd love to see Justin Bieber add his vocal talents to the new opening theme of Dr. Who, I believe England would immediately revert back to a monarchy and declare it's intent to retake it's colonies and all land incorporated since 1776.

I'm generally a pretty chill dude but I think I would have to beat Hoshi to death if I had to spend any extended length of time with her. She's really hot and that might buy her an extra month but I really think I would have cracked when she start talking about that stupid ass slug that she wound up marooning on an alien planet.

I read on Aintitcool that in the Enterprise Blu-Ray, they reveal that one of the UPN execs wanted a Boy Band to guest on every show and play a song. Wtf?

The opening of Star Trek Enterprise is completely amazing as it depicts the most amazing moments in navigational history as mankind conquers sea and air and heads towards the final frontierand it is set to the perfect music for that particular montage and I am happy it exists but it should not have been the intro to the show. This is one of the many ways that Enterprise dropped the ball which is why the show is so reviled.The In a Mirror Darkly instrumentalwas underwhelming, while it started off strong it ended weakly and the video it was set to was jumping between scenes way too fast and probably running too fast as well.

Here's what Simon Pegg has to say about it.

Allen shepard's shit-eating grin is easily the best part of that intro. That look perfectly conveys his thoughts "fuck yeah, I'm going to the moon."

NX-01 refit:

Old cast members doing a pilot in hopes of it getting picked up. They want to stick to original canon...which doesn't explain how Chekov is 150 years old.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/star-trek-renegades

lurkingdirk_sl said:

When did you realise you were "special?"

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He realized he was special when his parents told him he couldn't ride the bus with the other kids and had to go to school on the short one.

We all know that Data is the shit, but why do we have to shoehorn in a "non-human trying to understand what its like to be a human" in every series (Odo in DS9, the hologram Dr in Voyager, not sure about Enterprise but does that even count?) ?

Those types of characters tend to be popular for a variety of reasons, although it making them easier to relate to for much of the core fanbase probably being the main one.

Wuyley_sl said:

We all know that Data is the shit, but why do we have to shoehorn in a "non-human trying to understand what its like to be a human" in every series (Odo in DS9, the hologram Dr in Voyager, not sure about Enterprise but does that even count?) ?

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Those characters are there for the exposition factor. If you wanted for example to explain to the audience why Araysar is retarded it would be better to have a character who obviously does not quite understand human nature standing around so that the the Captain isn't just talking directly to the audience. There were times when Diana would spout explosition about human nature to Picard and it just looked stupid because Picard should already know the basic psychiatry of his own species whereas it would look perfectly normal for her to explain it to the more innocent Data.