Star Wars Rebels

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Gavinmad

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Except that, morally speaking, the Jedi are grey. The Jedi vs the Dark Side is almost more a question of Order vs Chaos than it is of Good vs Evil.
 

Kovaks

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Not sure how accurate it is but I read something, supposedly from the new books about how the new order came partially from imperial Palpatine sent out to unexplored space to find the source of the force... maybe they find out and go to stop him giving us years of rebels adventures on wirh all sorts of shit that they can make up in the unexplored regions. I doubt it though
 

Palum

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Ultimately even with JJ Abrams lightspeed = teleportation a galaxy is a big place. It's not really impossible, after all Yoda pusses out because LoLpredestination and all he does is sends the oh shit hide yo kids signal and retreats into a swamp. He doesn't really know shit and you know what assuming does, right Yoda?

Don't bring up he'd feel them through the force, he couldn't even figure out Palpatine under two feet away and even Nancy Drew could have solved that mystery. And the sensing a twin sister through the force turns out to be dude saw her pop out of Black Swan's vagina twenty years ago. I mean he's basically a little green Miss Cleo after the prequels got done with him.

Ah, canon.
 

Khalan

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Yeah agreed. Yoda drops the ball big time not sensing ol sheev. Granted he's a super powerful sith that can prob mask his presence but still, the dudes had beers every week in his office and he didnt notice shit. Same goes for #2 Mace Windu.

We can basically assume george had very little mapped out in the orignals so trying to shoehorn all that shit around old ass dialogue is dumb
 

Gavinmad

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Eh, I thought the Dark Side was clouding everything. They never really trusted the chancellor all that much even if they were blindsided by him being Sith.
 

Hoss

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Yeah, they definitely noted that the dark side was clouding everything and their ability to sense things had been diminished.
 

Jait

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The Dark Side clouds everything. Yup. Totally explains it. "How?" would be a much better question deserving an answer beyond "The magic did it. By itself!"

I guess Palpatine and Darth Maul sat in a room, ate spice melange and somehow clouded the thoughts of all the Jedi, even when their most powerful figures stood a foot away from the source of all "Dark Side".


edit: Truth is, it's gone lopsided for a while now. If you're looking for Lore in Star Wars, expect massive gaping plotholes, with the possibility they could at any point entirely re-explain things in a new way. Kylo Ren is Han Solo from the past, and is the love child of G'Kar and Sasha Grey.
 

Siliconemelons

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I noticed something that I noticed before but hit me even more after watching ep 4,5,6 again with my kids... Yoda is wrong 100% of the time... he is just as clouded by being so far light side as the emperor is being darkside.

Its fairly clear that you have to be a mix of dark/light - heck when Luke beats Vader he is tapping into the dark side.. heck his whole persona in 6 is darker, chokes those pig guards out etc...
 

Brand

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It is so true...Yoda and Windu consistently make terrible decisions based on their unflagging belief in their own omniscience.

It has often seemed to me that Old Ben and Qui-Gon Jinn are the most "Jedi-like" of the Jedi masters. Just my "feels".
 

Caliane

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yeah, this is some well known stuff. grey jedi for life.
the actual dichotomy is order/chaos.
and both Jedi and sith codes are kindof pants on head retarded.
Jedi, condemn passion, love, joy.. which is clearly stupid. and, causes stagnation.
Sith, have kill the fuck out of each other, as part of their core tenants. also results in nothing ever getting done. Lawful evil. great. and entire civilization of chaotic evil? no wonder you morons killed yourselves off.

this is then also the other problem with fantasy which often screws up order/chaos. chaos is always "evil". the forces of order "good". but that makes no sense really. Chaos is usually destruction, and/or anarchy mislabeled. Which is totally wrong. Chaos is infinitely complex systems. There is nothing in the universe more chaotic, then LIFE. Order is undeath. no growth, never changing. mind control-order. free will-chaos. rocks..entrophy.. a dead universe is the most ordered one.
 

Gavinmad

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Holy Shit, she's Pre Vizsla's daughter?!? But no, the darksaber won't be coming back.

Darth Maul still has it at the beginning of Son of Dathomir. I haven't read it, but at the end it could only be in the possession of Sidious, Grievous, Dooku, Maul himself, or dropped and lost on Dathomir.
 

Khalan

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Holy Shit, she's Pre Vizsla's daughter?!? But no, the darksaber won't be coming back.

Darth Maul still has it at the beginning of Son of Dathomir. I haven't read it, but at the end it could only be in the possession of Sidious, Grievous, Dooku, Maul himself, or dropped and lost on Dathomir.
If the trailer theories are correct "Old Master" might bring it back with him. Would be cool to see Sabine get it.
 

Kreugen

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Heh still, she's supposed to be Ezra's age. She doesn't sound enough like a teenaged bitchy twat.

Poor Sabine must be boob jealous.
 

Kreugen

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Also, I had Ryder pegged as a black guy. Actually he's the nutball priest from Carnivalle / Kurgan from Highlander.
 

Drakain

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This first episode from the break was not a high point. It all felt forced to try and work her into the story. The voice actress who did Leia has been doing her in the games and apps recently. That clip with Sabine looks good though.
 

Kreugen

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Another 30 heists like that one and they can take on one Star Destroyer.

I just assume this "humble" (pathetic) rebellion gets a major boost at some point before ANH. (although I guess blowing up the death star was the catalyst?)