Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)

Srathor · Oct 30, 2015

Now that is a movie I would watch. A 2 hour horror flick with Anakin/Pseudovader doing a cat and mouse slaughterfest with Jedi and younglings! Move over Freddy, there is a new Nightmare in town.

Sulrn · Oct 30, 2015

I can get behind the idea of the prequels being luke warm with some moments of cool minced in with a soup of completely and utterly horrible writing.

I can ignore the faults of an obvious cash grab, but it irritates me to no end that you can take a beloved franchise and milk it for years but in all that time you can't write a decent screenplay when you already have an end point. Especially when you take your best idea (Clone Wars and the manipulation of the Jedi Order) and sum it up in horrible ending sequence to hide the fail of your sub-romance plot and an opening sequence that is one of the few highlights of your last film just to leave it to get mostly wasted on a children's show. SMH.

I can see why Edge enjoys them more though and I'll agree that a few of you hold your opinions too tightly to your ego.

Sterling · Oct 30, 2015

There are plenty of worse movies than the prequels. There really aren't many movies that are even in the same ballpark of the level of disappointment I had in them though. If you mashed them all together and trimmed a bunch of stuff out you'd probably have a pretty sweet 90 minute movie. You might need to have someone do a voiceover to make it somewhat coherent though.

chaos · Oct 30, 2015

The Edge_sl said:
What? Someone has an opinion different than my own on a subjective matter??? Let's ridicule him!!!

Bro, liking the prequels is fine, whatever. I don't even understand it, but it is fine. But that isn't what you said, you said you can't emotionally connect with what is, undisputedly, the emotional high point of the entire series. The darkest hour for the Rebels, the part where it really seemed like evil might triumph, Anakin be forever lost to the dark side, Luke never fulfill his promise, Han fucking die. That's just weird. The fact that you can't connect on an emotional level to that, but can to The Phantom Menace, there is something on a basic level that makes me not understand you.

t seems to many people, myself included, like you're just trolling, because emotions are pretty standard across the board, that's why we can relate to things, and your response isn't what the rest of us record. It isn't opinion, this is lizard brain shit.

This isn't even an original story really, same shit retold for thousands of years. It's like saying I can't emotionally identify with Shakepeare but The Wiggles gets to me every time.

Hootie · Oct 30, 2015

The Edge_sl said:
And see, from my perspective, Empire is the least enjoyable. It gets the smallest amount of emotional reaction from me. I, III, VI create the most emotion. But I'm not going around bashing people for loving ESB the best. I love them all.

I'm sorry this is late but c'mon man, just, even though i know he is trolling........ban this guy.

Abefroman · Oct 30, 2015

chaos_sl said:
Bro, liking the prequels is fine, whatever. I don't even understand it, but it is fine. But that isn't what you said, you said you can't emotionally connect with what is, undisputedly, the emotional high point of the entire series. The darkest hour for the Rebels, the part where it really seemed like evil might triumph, Anakin be forever lost to the dark side, Luke never fulfill his promise, Han fucking die. That's just weird. The fact that you can't connect on an emotional level to that, but can to The Phantom Menace, there is something on a basic level that makes me not understand you.

t seems to many people, myself included, like you're just trolling, because emotions are pretty standard across the board, that's why we can relate to things, and your response isn't what the rest of us record. It isn't opinion, this is lizard brain shit.

This isn't even an original story really, same shit retold for thousands of years. It's like saying I can't emotionally identify with Shakepeare but The Wiggles gets to me every time.

Thiis post is like poetry, or maybe i'm just high.

Abefroman · Oct 30, 2015

How old is Edge?

Sterling · Oct 30, 2015

In fairness maybe some people think The Wiggles are fucking deep man.

khalid · Oct 30, 2015

I think it is pretty clear what happened with Edge.

He watched the prequel's first, liked them. Then was told "nah dude, they sucked, empire is the best". So he watched the original trilogy already in a mindset determined to hate on it.

chaos · Oct 30, 2015

For everyone else, I don't know how anyone can rate The Phantom Menace above any other movie in the franchise. Watch one of those Gungan scenes again, just pick one it doesn't matter which, and tell me again there is any movie in the Star Wars franchise worse than that one.

Royal · Oct 31, 2015

Sterling_sl said:
There are plenty of worse movies than the prequels. There really aren't many movies that are even in the same ballpark of the level of disappointment I had in them though.

Yup. It was exactly the same for me. TPM was the first (and only) movie I have ever waited in a line that snaked around a parking lot literally for hours to see, thinking I'd probably wait a couple of weeks before coming back to see it three or four more times. Fast forward to walking out of the theater afterwards into that same parking lot, half blind from the sudden burst of sunlight, and the first thing that goes through my mind is "I don't want to see that again any time soon".

There really are much, MUCH worse sci-fi movies out there but I doubt there are many that delivered on their potential for disappointment the way the prequels did for fans who had been waiting for years for more Star Wars. That disappointment is a big part of why they are scorned to the extent that they are. Honestly, I can see how someone who as a kid was introduced to the franchise through them wouldn't feel the same way about their place in the series as some of the older farts would.

Now someone seeing the originals in the theater when they came out andstillliking the prequels more? That would take some serious mental gymnastics to rationalize.

Maul · Oct 31, 2015

chaos_sl said:
Bro, liking the prequels is fine, whatever. I don't even understand it, but it is fine. But that isn't what you said, you said you can't emotionally connect with what is, undisputedly, the emotional high point of the entire series. The darkest hour for the Rebels, the part where it really seemed like evil might triumph, Anakin be forever lost to the dark side, Luke never fulfill his promise, Han fucking die. That's just weird. The fact that you can't connect on an emotional level to that, but can to The Phantom Menace, there is something on a basic level that makes me not understand you.

t seems to many people, myself included, like you're just trolling, because emotions are pretty standard across the board, that's why we can relate to things, and your response isn't what the rest of us record. It isn't opinion, this is lizard brain shit.

This isn't even an original story really, same shit retold for thousands of years. It's like saying I can't emotionally identify with Shakepeare but The Wiggles gets to me every time.

You dumb cunt would have also been an acceptable answer.

Royal · Oct 31, 2015

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Itzena_sl · Oct 31, 2015

Better than the prequels.

The Edge · Oct 31, 2015

chaos_sl said:
Bro, liking the prequels is fine, whatever. I don't even understand it, but it is fine. But that isn't what you said, you said you can't emotionally connect with what is, undisputedly, the emotional high point of the entire series. The darkest hour for the Rebels, the part where it really seemed like evil might triumph, Anakin be forever lost to the dark side, Luke never fulfill his promise, Han fucking die. That's just weird. The fact that you can't connect on an emotional level to that, but can to The Phantom Menace, there is something on a basic level that makes me not understand you.

t seems to many people, myself included, like you're just trolling, because emotions are pretty standard across the board, that's why we can relate to things, and your response isn't what the rest of us record. It isn't opinion, this is lizard brain shit.

This isn't even an original story really, same shit retold for thousands of years. It's like saying I can't emotionally identify with Shakepeare but The Wiggles gets to me every time.

I never said that Empire didn't connect with me. I said it has the least emotional connection out of the Star Wars movies with me. And you realize that there are opinions that exist outside this board, right? Just because there's a vocal majority on these boards that think a certain way, does not mean that is how the majority of people think. But even if they did, what difference does it make? Why is it so important to tell someone they're wrong for enjoying something? This board contains a very specific demographic, so it's not surprising many of you share the same views.

I'm clearly not alone. The re-release of The Phantom Menace in 3-D in 2012 earned over $100 million, and the funny thing is I didn't even see it at that time. I was content with the Blu-ray release. RotS probably gets the biggest emotional reaction out of me. I grew up with RotJ being my favorite. My dad had it on Laser Disc, and it was my favorite movie at the time. I had just started college when TPM came out. Saw it 3 or 4 times in the theater, and I loved it. I never knew there was hate for it until years later when I saw people like you guys on internet message boards getting all salty. Other's enjoyment or not has no effect on my feelings towards something.

ohkcrlho · Oct 31, 2015

Itzena_sl said:
Better than the prequels.

Anything ,except the prequels, is better than the prequels

Jozu · Oct 31, 2015

Obviously Episodes 1 2 and 3 were bad, but at this point we can just try and make the best of it and hope that Lucas selling and Disney taking control will at least put the franchise back on an upward trajectory with the next films. Basically, what I do is just take what good aspects there were from the prequels and try to ignore the stupid shit. General Grevious and Darth Maul, young Vader, there were some things you could take away without totally discounting the films altogether.

I get a lot of shit for liking Maul, he was a pretty one dimensional boring villain, but his image and skillset was memorable and he killed Qui Gon Jin. Yoda with lightsaber and microbiology force bullshit was dumb as fuck, as well as Jar Jar Binks and a lot of that other kiddie bullshit. Abrams is going to at least avoid the same mistakes with these installments I would think.

khalid · Oct 31, 2015

The Edge_sl said:
Just because there's a vocal majority on these boards that think a certain way, does not mean that is how the majority of people think.

So you are really arguing that the majority of people don't think Empire is the best, or that the prequels were far inferior to the originals?

Goddamn son.

chaos · Oct 31, 2015

The Edge_sl said:
I never said that Empire didn't connect with me. I said it has the least emotional connection out of the Star Wars movies with me. And you realize that there are opinions that exist outside this board, right? Just because there's a vocal majority on these boards that think a certain way, does not mean that is how the majority of people think. But even if they did, what difference does it make? Why is it so important to tell someone they're wrong for enjoying something? This board contains a very specific demographic, so it's not surprising many of you share the same views.

I'm clearly not alone. The re-release of The Phantom Menace in 3-D in 2012 earned over $100 million, and the funny thing is I didn't even see it at that time. I was content with the Blu-ray release. RotS probably gets the biggest emotional reaction out of me. I grew up with RotJ being my favorite. My dad had it on Laser Disc, and it was my favorite movie at the time. I had just started college when TPM came out. Saw it 3 or 4 times in the theater, and I loved it. I never knew there was hate for it until years later when I saw people like you guys on internet message boards getting all salty. Other's enjoyment or not has no effect on my feelings towards something.

Some people like the prequels. Some people even prefer them. That's weird, but whatever.

But in terms of the emotions portrayed on the screen, we're not in opinion territory anymore.

Palum · Oct 31, 2015

chaos_sl said:
Some people like the prequels. Some people even prefer them. That's weird, but whatever.

But in terms of the emotions portrayed on the screen, we're not in opinion territory anymore.

I believe most studies have linked preference of the prequels as a precursor to pedophilia.

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