So Han was able to out pilot a sith lord and take him by surprise?Yes but this was in the context of Vadar being about to kill Luke before he can make that shot. He only made the shot after being saved by Han.
One versus one in that fight Luke dies before he ever takes that shot.
It was a bank shot Han took out one of Vadars wingmen and Vadars other wingman panicked and crashed into Vadar. Vader was actually taken out by an accident caused by Hans sudden appearance. So nether Han are Luke were actually any real threat to the a Sith Lord.So Han was able to out pilot a sith lord and take him by surprise?
So much this. Also expertise in the force does not equate to the same skill level with a Lightsaber.The prequels set a terrible precedent that made Jedi into godmode ninjas.
Made me lolLived alone in a swamp for 30 years with only ghosts to talk to, then the first live person that shows up is a snot nosed brat who crashed his ship in the bog. Fuck with him too I would.
Using the Force in this context though is ignoring outside stimuli (computer targeting) and going with your intuition/instinct/gut feeling. It's nowhere near the leaps made in VII.Luke uses the Force to steady his Death Star kill shot.
Clearly you missed, well, all of the prequels. In Episode II, we see dozens of Jedi get slain fighting droids. In Episode III, we see more get wasted by clone troopers. Godmode, they are not.The prequels set a terrible precedent that made Jedi into godmode ninjas.
So Vader got Jarjar'd and didn't see it coming?It was a bank shot Han took out one of Vadars wingmen and Vadars other wingman panicked and crashed into Vadar. Vader was actually taken out by an accident caused by Hans sudden appearance. So nether Han are Luke were actually any real threat to the a Sith Lord.
Han versus Vadar in armed combat and it ends up like bellow.
Glad to know that you're arguing that Luke going with his feelings on when to pull the trigger to blow up the Death Star is on par with Rey doing JEDI mind tricks, resisting mind-probing by a trained Force user, and not only wielding a lightsaber, but beating a Sith apprentice seconds after picking up a lightsaber for the first time. GG, bro.
I'm loling at someone who likes the prequels best arguing about a movie making unbelievable leapsGlad to know that you're arguing that Luke going with his feelings on when to pull the trigger to blow up the Death Star is on par with Rey doing JEDI mind tricks, resisting mind-probing by a trained Force user, and not only wielding a lightsaber, but beating a Sith apprentice seconds after picking up a lightsaber for the first time. GG, bro.
The answer is no. The dark lord says to grab him so he can finish his training aka a padawan. Rey we dont know for sure but the flashbacks and suppressed memories and force use lead, intimate some form of training in parity with kylo.Do we know how far KR was in his training?
It's also clear that he has a lot of shit going on that can keep him from being Jediking.
I would say his demonstrated power level was within original Vadar and prequel Obi-wan range.Do we know how far KR was in his training?
It's also clear that he has a lot of shit going on that can keep him from being Jediking.