Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)

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Adebisi

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I would hardly call Rey's use of the force "expert" when she fought off an injured Kylo.

Keg tarded
 

Jive Turkey

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Yes but this was in the context of Vadar being about to kill Luke before he can make that shot. He only made the shot after being saved by Han.

One versus one in that fight Luke dies before he ever takes that shot.
So Han was able to out pilot a sith lord and take him by surprise?
 

Siddar

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So Han was able to out pilot a sith lord and take him by surprise?
It was a bank shot Han took out one of Vadars wingmen and Vadars other wingman panicked and crashed into Vadar. Vader was actually taken out by an accident caused by Hans sudden appearance. So nether Han are Luke were actually any real threat to the a Sith Lord.

Han versus Vadar in armed combat and it ends up like bellow.

 

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The prequels really fucked all your minds. Prophecy? Balance? Shit that don't do any godamn because It was so poorly written.

Kylo is this, rey is that. Secretly I think you wanted TFA to be another "prequel".
The movie isn't perfect, it's not ESB, not even ROTJ imo but fuck me, you say like it's the most disappointing thing this year.
 

The Edge

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Luke uses the Force to steady his Death Star kill shot.
Using the Force in this context though is ignoring outside stimuli (computer targeting) and going with your intuition/instinct/gut feeling. It's nowhere near the leaps made in VII.
 

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The prequels set a terrible precedent that made Jedi into godmode ninjas.
Clearly you missed, well, all of the prequels. In Episode II, we see dozens of Jedi get slain fighting droids. In Episode III, we see more get wasted by clone troopers. Godmode, they are not.
 

Jive Turkey

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It was a bank shot Han took out one of Vadars wingmen and Vadars other wingman panicked and crashed into Vadar. Vader was actually taken out by an accident caused by Hans sudden appearance. So nether Han are Luke were actually any real threat to the a Sith Lord.

Han versus Vadar in armed combat and it ends up like bellow.

So Vader got Jarjar'd and didn't see it coming?
 

The Edge

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Glad to know that you're arguing that Luke going with his feelings on when to pull the trigger to blow up the Death Star is on par with Rey doing JEDI mind tricks, resisting mind-probing by a trained Force user, and not only wielding a lightsaber, but beating a Sith apprentice seconds after picking up a lightsaber for the first time. GG, bro.
 

Jive Turkey

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Glad to know that you're arguing that Luke going with his feelings on when to pull the trigger to blow up the Death Star is on par with Rey doing JEDI mind tricks, resisting mind-probing by a trained Force user, and not only wielding a lightsaber, but beating a Sith apprentice seconds after picking up a lightsaber for the first time. GG, bro.
I'm loling at someone who likes the prequels best arguing about a movie making unbelievable leaps
 

Adebisi

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Do we know how far KR was in his training?

It's also clear that he has a lot of shit going on that can keep him from being Jediking.
 

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So you agree with my statement, and you're just trying to be a douche? Thanks for clearing that up.
 

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Do we know how far KR was in his training?

It's also clear that he has a lot of shit going on that can keep him from being Jediking.
The answer is no. The dark lord says to grab him so he can finish his training aka a padawan. Rey we dont know for sure but the flashbacks and suppressed memories and force use lead, intimate some form of training in parity with kylo.

Not to mention the giant god damn bowcaster blast he took to the side, you aspie ass fucks
 

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Do we know how far KR was in his training?

It's also clear that he has a lot of shit going on that can keep him from being Jediking.
I would say his demonstrated power level was within original Vadar and prequel Obi-wan range.

Maybe he just sucked with lightsabers because his other force abilities seemed rather strong.
 

Adebisi

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Still in training
Injured
Just killed your dad

I'd say he was having a bad day