Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)

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Cybsled

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The real reason Ren lost is Rey unlocked his memories of Lena Dunham naked, which caused him to fly into an uncontrollable rage.
 

kegkilla

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I would hardly call Rey's use of the force "expert" when she fought off an injured Kylo.

Keg tarded
never said she was an expert in the force. but her having remotely enough force power to not getting completely face fucked by Kylo, no matter how big his boo boo was, is complete bullshit. keep licking JJ Abram's dickhole though, scrub.
 

Palum

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I mean, it seems pretty simple to me: dude who is pretend badass whose adopted parent says "uhh yea, Ben, you're special, you have 9 little league trophies!" and had never actually faced opponents in armed combat vs. person who learned to fight hand to hand with a staff for ~15 years in order to survive able to pick up a sword and figure out it's kind of just half a staff. *shrug*.
 

kegkilla

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I mean, it seems pretty simple to me: dude who is pretend badass whose adopted parent says "uhh yea, Ben, you're special, you have 9 little league trophies!" and had never actually faced opponents in armed combat vs. person who learned to fight hand to hand with a staff for ~15 years in order to survive able to pick up a sword and figure out it's kind of just half a staff. *shrug*.
except we see him stop a sniper bolt in mid air and hold it there indefinitely (only person in the movies who has done anything resembling this is Vader himself), mind fuck the supposedly bad ass mexican guy into giving up the details on the Droid, and we know the new sith daddy holds him in high regard as he's basically the #2 in the entire New Order. more than enough reason to think he should be able to handle a sub Padawan scrub without breaking a sweat.
 

TomServo

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People like keg are so threatened by a woman beating a dude with any power makes them literally angry with rage.
 

Abefroman

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Cut Keg some slack. He just had a Mexican looking son with a swampdonkey. He's probably not sleeping much.
 

Famm

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Saw it again today and it mostly erased all my complaints. Really glad I went the second time. Its popcorn/tentpole-ish but its a solid entry to the series and looks like Citizen Kane compared to the prequels. Those of you who hate it probably won't change your minds but if you were at least mostly positive like me, see it again. I caught a whole lot more stuff that I didn't see the first time and the story was better now that I've had a week to process it and read the internet nitpicks.

After watching again I have zero complaints about Kylo and his final fight. They staged the build up to everything just fine, and Rey's situation seems so much more obvious and natural now, pending finding out more about her history of course. He knew from early on she was special, well he knows literally who she is and how powerful she could be. Its all right in the movie but its implied more than stated because they are keeping her full story under wraps for now. Kylo was scared shitless of her too, that was also obvious at times.

Thinking Kylo got bitched out is nonsense, he met a force user who matched his power and was too inexperienced to handle it. As for Finn, he got shitstomped despite one lucky glancing blow which was due to Kylo being hurt, tired and emotionally drained.

I have two remaining complaints. Carrie Fisher is still fucking awful, get her the hell away from this franchise please. Captain Phasma is weak and too shoehorned in and the whole shield thing could have been handled better. That was a definite plot hole.

Otherwise everything was better the second time. I noticed the score a whole lot more this time and its actually really solid as well. It was a good movie.
 

Miguex

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Glad to know that you're arguing that Luke going with his feelings on when to pull the trigger to blow up the Death Star is on par with Rey doing JEDI mind tricks, resisting mind-probing by a trained Force user, and not only wielding a lightsaber, but beating a Sith apprentice seconds after picking up a lightsaber for the first time. GG, bro.
Lets revisit this when its shown in the next couple movies that Rey was already training with Luke when Kylo cleaned house killed everyone, except her. There are so many hints to this in the movie, it amazes me that people aren't picking it up. Maybe if it was spelled out like fucking absolutely everything was in the prequels you love, you would have gotten it. Fuck off.