Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker
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Fadaar
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don't even need lightning to bring down a 737, just a shitty engineer or two
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a c i d.f l y
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Grizzlebeard
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Chukzombi
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didnt Poe shoot at Kylo and he just captured him? wasnt that how Poe met his future boyfriend, Finn? i dont know for sure because im trying to block these movies from my head.
and he definitely fucked up Finn when Finn tried to be a badass with the lightsaber.
and he definitely fucked up Finn when Finn tried to be a badass with the lightsaber.
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Grizzlebeard
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and he definitely fucked up Finn when Finn tried to be a badass with the lightsaber.
Yeah, but how long would Darth Vader have taken to dispose of a non-force user waving around a light saber? Finn actually held his own briefly against someone who had trained with one all his life and could freeze blaster fire mid-air.
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Khane
Got something right about marriage
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didnt Poe shoot at Kylo and he just captured him? wasnt that how Poe met his future boyfriend, Finn? i dont know for sure because im trying to block these movies from my head.
and he definitely fucked up Finn when Finn tried to be a badass with the lightsaber.
He didn't actually fuck up Finn. A custodian with a lightsaber was able to go toe to toe with him for quite a while
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Chukzombi
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well sure, but Kylo did beat others in fights, Finn being a space janitor should count as an opponent. maybe Luke was a shitty trainer or it was day one of kylo's jedi training and thats when Luke sperged out on him.
Was one of the things that annoyed me the most about Ren. He was awful at being a jedi, sith, or anything resembling being adept with the force, aside from random forced plot situations where he does something "powerful". Yet he was supposedly the #2 dark force user in the galaxy (before knowing about palps), and leader of a group of dark force users to boot. I at least figured in the 2nd movie, the rift between him and Luke would have happened when he was a punk 12 year old or something, explain why he seemed so untrained & snotty, but nope hes pretty much grown in the flashback.
He's Uncles lazy shitbird nephew that didn't learn a damn thing, but Uncle is a softtouch when it comes to family, is my explanation.
At the end, the lesson I'm getting from this trilogy is: it's perfectly ok to act like a snotty spoiled little cunt for years, all the while LARPing being an evil dude, murder your dad, come very close to murdering your mother, all because your religious uncle knew you were a little fucking faggot, and briefly considered doing the universe a favor, but changed his mind, before you flipped the fuck out and murdered a bunch of kids, proved him right, and ran away. Then for one single day you decide to do the right thing and grow the fuck up, and suddenly everything is perfectly cool, you are one of the heroes in the end. That's one hell of a Disney ending.
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Caliane
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yeah, Kylo being whiny and kindof shit, is fair enough characterization by itself as an adult. Angsty not quite good enough asshole acting out, because hes not good enough to claim what he thinks he deserves IS a interesting and different take on a villain here.
But, as you note, its completely at odds with Luke's vision. Luke considering killing him because he had darkness, and was just so damn powerful, completely falls flat with just how shit we see Kylo in practice.
But, as you note, its completely at odds with Luke's vision. Luke considering killing him because he had darkness, and was just so damn powerful, completely falls flat with just how shit we see Kylo in practice.
Runnen
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Yeah if anything, Kylo Ren being a wannabe Sith Lord and mostly failing wasn't bad, it was as you said a different take, plus if they had tried to one-up Vader they'd have failed spectacularly. And Driver did the acting just fine for that part..
No, the problem was that such a character was indeed used wrong in the story (supposedly a huge terrifying badass when really he's not doing that good) and the story was written badly, not using the characters how it should, when it should...
The pieces were there to make something decent, it was just mishandled in all the worst ways. And a lot of pieces should have been cut out.
No, the problem was that such a character was indeed used wrong in the story (supposedly a huge terrifying badass when really he's not doing that good) and the story was written badly, not using the characters how it should, when it should...
The pieces were there to make something decent, it was just mishandled in all the worst ways. And a lot of pieces should have been cut out.
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Hoss
Make America's Team Great Again
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You can also get that lesson from a Bible. Just in case you liked it and want to read it again in different words.
Only was familiar with it as a kid once, one foster home were Mormons. Guess I got the extended special edition, with full DVD features, kinda Bible reading.
Still all better fiction than this trilogy, even with all the plotholes and contradictions.