The Big Bad Console Thread - Sway your Station with an Xboner !

Selix_sl said:

Still with rthe XB1 and PS4 coming out before Christmas chances are anyone who can't get a PS4 will be able to easily get an XB1.

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DMK_sl said:

I think you'd be surprised since X1's 180 on policies Xbone's preorders have increased significantly. They even recently ran a poll and PS 4 is only 10% more when it comes to people likely to buy at launch. That's not that much when you consider Xbone is 100 dollars more expensive and the 180 in polices happening quiet a few weeks after initial announcement. I'm not saying Xbone will outsell PS4 by any means. No where near. I am saying I think people will be surprised with the demand for Xbone come christmas.


PS4 beating Xbox One in US poll - GameSpot.com

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joeboo_sl said:

You're not really interpreting that poll correctly. Yes, out of the people that responded to that poll, PS4 purchase % was only about 10% higher than XB1 purchase %, but the way that poll is arranged, that equates to 75% more people choosing PS4 over Xbox1. 26% chose PS4, 15% chose XB1, and 59% said neither would be purchased this holiday season.

out of the 1297 people responding, 195 would have chosen XBOX1, while 337 chose PS4.

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DMK_sl said:

My point is compared to polls taken a couple months before where it was even more drastically in PS4's favor. Xbone appeal has increased drastically since the 180 and numbers back that up. I'm simply pointing out that I don't think it will be a huge landslide like everyone was originally thinking. Including myself.

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DMK_sl said:

My point is compared to polls taken a couple months before where it was even more drastically in PS4's favor. Xbone appeal has increased drastically since the 180 and numbers back that up. I'm simply pointing out that I don't think it will be a huge landslide like everyone was originally thinking. Including myself.

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DMK_sl said:

Although I'm a bit cut that I couldn't get a PS4 at launch I think as gamers we should all hope it stays at least competitive between the two consoles. We saw what Sony came out with when they dominated the market with the PS2. The PS4 is essentially an apology. Just like we saw what Microsoft tried to pull with the success of the 360. The more even the race this generation the less arrogant each company can be.

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hodj_sl said:

Are you referring to the ps3? Or something in the ps2 era?

Because I think Sony did gamers a pretty bro job during the entire ps2 era. Great games. massive library. Definitely one of the top 3 consoles of all time, in my opinion.

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Sean_sl said:

I disagree. Microsoft needs a good trouncing like Sony got, otherwise they won't learn shit. If they're even they'll just learn that they can flip flop around and put out shitty hardware for a higher price and people will still buy into it.

Sony already learned their lesson and hopefully they don't need another. Microsoft certainly hasn't learned theirs yet though.

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International Data Corporation says PlayStation 4's lower price point will help platform edge out Xbox One; console sales expected to grow in 2013 for the first time in four years.
The PlayStation 4 will outsell the Xbox One at release this holiday due to a "variety of factors" but most directly its price point, according to a new report from the International Data Corporation (IDC) released this week.


The PS4 will sell for $400, while the Xbox One will launch at $500.

Sony has previously said that "price isn't everything" and that the lowest-priced console isn't always the most successful.

For its part, Microsoft Xbox director Albert Penello said last month that the Xbox One is worth $100 more than the PS4. "I just believe that we're going to have a better system," he said at the time.

The IDC report also concludes that the number of game consoles shipped worldwide in 2013 will be "marginally higher" than 2012's 33 million, bringing to a halt a four-year slide that started in 2009.

The research group also predicted that prepaid full-game, micro-game, and add-on revenue generated through Xbox Live, PlayStation Network, and eShop will exceed that of worldwide PC-based digital sales of the same nature for the first time ever this year.

The IDC also pointed out that while subscription-based PC game revenue is currently declining, connected console subscription revenue (Xbox Live Gold, PlayStation Plus) is up so far in 2013.

IDC gaming research manager Lewis Ward said the online console game market is expected to exceed 165 million people worldwide by 2017. Details about how many people would be playing offline were not provided.

"As a result, the opportunity to sell these gamers digital assets through Wii U, Xbox One, and PS4 online storefronts will grow substantially in the next several years," Ward said.

The Chinese government's recent decision to lift its 13-year console ban "should" lead to millions of additional hardware sales for Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony within the next three years, Ward said.

Lastly, Ward said emerging platforms like Ouya, Valve's new Steam Machines, smart TVs, and other microconsoles are "unlikely" to have a material impact on the traditional console business, at least for a few more years.

"It appears unlikely that Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony will be driven out of the living room from a gaming perspective by 2017 as result of non-console competition from the likes of Valve/Steam, Ouya, cable/telecom companies, or related hardware and Web service providers," Ward said.

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• Sony Computer Entertainment?s Current aim is ?redefining the added value of dedicated game consoles?
• Reviewing the reactions of the users from North American and Europe during E3 House thinks there?s a possibility to expand consoles not only as devices for core games, but also as a wider form of entertainment.
• As shown during the presentation at Tokyo Game Show, the future House envisions isn?t one in which consoles are pitched against smartphones, but one where there?s a ?fusion? between the two.
• When the PS3 was introduced, it was an excellent gaming console plus a Blu-ray player. Sony has been working hard on the PlayStation Network towards having a console that is an entertainment device with purposes wider than games. In particular, video delivery services are being established in the west, while Japan is still a bit behind there.
• In the US live sport broadcasting has become very important, while in Europe consoles have changed from devices one uses alone, to devices one can enjoy with the family in the living room watching TV shows.
• Sony wants to be one of the players delivering video contents, according to the ?One Sony? philosophy, and thanks to the content offered by Sony Pictures Entertainment.
• A visible shift in business models has appeared in the market: increasing profits by selling additional content and providing added value with membership services. Sony plans to work earnestly on the latter starting with the PS4.
• The future hardware platform strategy of Sony Computer Entertainment is considering the PlayStation Platforms as one.
• Within that strategy differences between countries and cultures will be considered in order to present the the strongest platform as possible in each region.
• That?s why for instance the New PCH-2000 PS Vita is being introduced only in Japan for the moment. The point is introducing each hardware at the best time and in the best way to suit each region.
• Having further different models based on the PS Vita?s hardware and operating system (like the Vita TV), is not to be excluded, but the Vita TV needs to be successful first.
• Considering future business, the PSN is to be seen as the center hub that links everything. While Hardware is still important, rather than sell hardware alone, it?s crucial to increase the points of contact through the PSN itself.
• It?s also good to have a different range of products linked with each other through the PSN with different price points to serve different user segments: if one wants a state-of-the-art gaming experience, he?ll choose the PS4. If one doesn?t want to spend a lot of money but is also interested in video services, he can get the PS Vita TV.The customers in the middle have the chance to get a PS3.
• Sony is striving to offer a similar experience across different platforms, including mobile, with the Sony Entertainment Network. Being able to enjoy the same data with the same account is a large progress even in the looks of the user interface. House thinks that things were too disconnected in the past but now they?re coming together.
• House thinks that PlayStation Mobile needs to be strengthened as a platform to introduce indie developers to working on PS Vita, PS3 and PS4 content. In addition to that, the challenge is to evolve it so that it capitalizes on the strength of the PSN community.

Sean_sl said:

I disagree. Microsoft needs a good trouncing like Sony got, otherwise they won't learn shit. If they're even they'll just learn that they can flip flop around and put out shitty hardware for a higher price and people will still buy into it.

Sony already learned their lesson and hopefully they don't need another. Microsoft certainly hasn't learned theirs yet though.

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