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Antarius

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You're not really interpreting that poll correctly. Yes, out of the people that responded to that poll, PS4 purchase % was only about 10% higher than XB1 purchase %, but the way that poll is arranged, that equates to 75% more people choosing PS4 over Xbox1. 26% chose PS4, 15% chose XB1, and 59% said neither would be purchased this holiday season.

out of the 1297 people responding, 195 would have chosen XBOX1, while 337 chose PS4.
Thank you, when he said 10%....


My head almost exploded because math.

But your figures aren't necessarily the entire story either depending on how exactly they worded the poll. It could also mean that 142 people said they were planning on buying a ps4, and 195 said they were planning on purchasing both.

The rift widens among those below the age of 40. Of that group of 408 people, 41 percent picked Sony's PS4 versus 27 percent for Microsoft's Xbox One, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted from Sept 23 to Sept 27.
41% if the population under the age of 40 is planning on purchasing a PS4? I don't see those kind of numbers holding up nationwide, or you'd be looking at 20+ million pre-orders alone.
 

Zombie Thorne_sl

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Samsclub website has PS4 preorders available if anyone is still looking.

I liked that interview with Andrew House. Sony really seems to be nailing everything with the PS4.
 

Xevy

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Sony is the a bait company. "We're going to do this, and it'll be awesome!" then a shitty implementation of this idea is cranked out. People hate it. Sony takes forever/never fixes it. This is basically how most Sony games are done.

Microsoft is like "We're gonna do this" and people go "I don't want that!" and Microsoft, traditionally, would say "you'll learn to like it and we'll make adjustments!" and that's how they rolled. Now with the 180ing all over who knows, maybe they're different, maybe they're just not trying to force shit early.
 

Vaclav

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It was the worst unboxing video ever - amongst other things it didn't show him taking it out of the box...
 

hodj

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Microsoft still planning on using Kinect to record the shit you do in your living room so they can sell it to advertisers for a profit

Xbox Ones Abilities

Xbox One Could Reshape Marketing | Special: ANA Annual Meeting 2013 - Advertising Age

Forty-nine days from an Xbox One rollout that could make or break one of Microsoft's most successful brands, the key marketing executive behind the launch outlined how it also could reshape marketing in a speech to the Association of National Advertisers Masters of Marketing Conference in Phoenix Oct. 5.

Yusuf Mehdi, corporate VP-marketing and strategy for Microsoft, outlined how he expects the new system, which succeeds the eight-year-old Xbox 360 in a neck-and-neck race with Sony's Playstation 4 launch, could affect marketing. Those possibilities include ramping up consumer expectations for production values in advertising thanks to advances in Xbox imaging technology, furthering the "gamification" movement in advertising, and consolidating more attention now diffused among multiple devices for gaming, TV and web browsing onto the big screen. For example, Xbox One will make it easier to port real-time fantasy-football data to the TV screen as people watch NFL games.

But perhaps the biggest potential impact is one Mr. Mehdi only hinted at -- the possibility of making data from Xbox available for market research.

Holy grail
"We are trying to bridge some of the world between online and offline," he said. "That's a little bit of a holy grail in terms of how you understand the consumer in that 360 degrees of their life. We have a pretty unique position at Microsoft because of what we do with digital, as well as more and more with television because of Xbox. It's early days, but we're starting to put that together in more of a unifying way, and hopefully at some point we can start to offer that to advertisers broadly."

Xbox One can essentially work like TV that watches you, bringing marketers a huge new trove of data about what's going on in living rooms, including, as one marketer put it after the speech, unprecedented information about how people engage with TV advertising.

"It could have a big impact on pricing," he said, given Xbox One's capacity for seeing whether people are paying attention or how their bodies respond to the ads, said the marketer, who wasn't authorized by his company to speak for attribution.

Biometric responses
Given that Xbox 360 has sold more than 78 million units, if even a fraction of likely Xbox One users could be persuaded to share data, the technology could create the world's largest panel for measuring biometric responses to advertising.

The new generation of Kinect technology in Xbox One can distinguish up to six voices in a room, respond to voice commands, read skeletal movement, muscle force, whether people are looking at or away from the TV and even their heart rates, Mr. Mehdi said. The latter happens as the camera detects slight changes in skin tone related to dilation of a blood vessel in the eyeball that responds to heart rate, Mr. Mehdi said.

In a feature that was controversial among some users, Microsoft originally said that the Xbox One would have to be connected to the internet and Mircosoft's servers at least once every 24 hours to function. After consumer outcry, Microsoft backed down. It also dropped its original plan to require that Kinect technology always be on for the console to work.
 

Sean_sl

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Microsoft still planning on using Kinect to record the shit you do in your living room so they can sell it to advertisers for a profit

Xbox Ones Abilities

Xbox One Could Reshape Marketing | Special: ANA Annual Meeting 2013 - Advertising Age

Forty-nine days from an Xbox One rollout that could make or break one of Microsoft's most successful brands, the key marketing executive behind the launch outlined how it also could reshape marketing in a speech to the Association of National Advertisers Masters of Marketing Conference in Phoenix Oct. 5.

Yusuf Mehdi, corporate VP-marketing and strategy for Microsoft, outlined how he expects the new system, which succeeds the eight-year-old Xbox 360 in a neck-and-neck race with Sony's Playstation 4 launch, could affect marketing. Those possibilities include ramping up consumer expectations for production values in advertising thanks to advances in Xbox imaging technology, furthering the "gamification" movement in advertising, and consolidating more attention now diffused among multiple devices for gaming, TV and web browsing onto the big screen. For example, Xbox One will make it easier to port real-time fantasy-football data to the TV screen as people watch NFL games.

But perhaps the biggest potential impact is one Mr. Mehdi only hinted at -- the possibility of making data from Xbox available for market research.

Holy grail
"We are trying to bridge some of the world between online and offline," he said. "That's a little bit of a holy grail in terms of how you understand the consumer in that 360 degrees of their life. We have a pretty unique position at Microsoft because of what we do with digital, as well as more and more with television because of Xbox. It's early days, but we're starting to put that together in more of a unifying way, and hopefully at some point we can start to offer that to advertisers broadly."

Xbox One can essentially work like TV that watches you, bringing marketers a huge new trove of data about what's going on in living rooms, including, as one marketer put it after the speech, unprecedented information about how people engage with TV advertising.

"It could have a big impact on pricing," he said, given Xbox One's capacity for seeing whether people are paying attention or how their bodies respond to the ads, said the marketer, who wasn't authorized by his company to speak for attribution.

Biometric responses
Given that Xbox 360 has sold more than 78 million units, if even a fraction of likely Xbox One users could be persuaded to share data, the technology could create the world's largest panel for measuring biometric responses to advertising.

The new generation of Kinect technology in Xbox One can distinguish up to six voices in a room, respond to voice commands, read skeletal movement, muscle force, whether people are looking at or away from the TV and even their heart rates, Mr. Mehdi said. The latter happens as the camera detects slight changes in skin tone related to dilation of a blood vessel in the eyeball that responds to heart rate, Mr. Mehdi said.

In a feature that was controversial among some users, Microsoft originally said that the Xbox One would have to be connected to the internet and Mircosoft's servers at least once every 24 hours to function. After consumer outcry, Microsoft backed down. It also dropped its original plan to require that Kinect technology always be on for the console to work.
Not surprising. Old news sorta, but there was no way that they were ever going to get rid of this part of it. It's really amazing that they actually are letting people use the Xbone without Kinect, since I'm sure the marketing faggots behind all this shit fought tooth and nail to make Kinect 100% required in the first place.
 

Northerner

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Oh, there's never been a question about what they *want* to happen in this space. Apple, MS, Google and others are all balls deep trying to be the One when it comes to bringing full capture to the living room.

The thing is, marketing weasels may or may not actually understand how real people react to this sort of thing. They are not nefarious here, they really do just want to know everything about you to sell ads to others. Still, everyone knows that once the data is being collected, there are other ways to exploit it profitably and of course there is the small issue of the vocal minority that is going to going fucking crazy the first time data goes upstream of Timmy banging the babysitter.

Regardless, Europe is going to have a field day in court over this sort of thing. Plenty of jurice prudence exists already regarding privacy and profiteering off of data collected without express and explicit permission *on each occasion it is gathered*. Unless they go all region-specific, I cannot possibly imagine how they think they can even gather marketing data in the EU given present law, never mind what will get passed once the socialist masses hear the details.
 

Quaid

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One thing is certain for me - there will never be a fucking Kinect, XBox One, or possibly even any Microsoft product in my home. Period.

I don't care that it can operate offline now. The fast one they tried to pull on consumers is mind boggling. They want to collect marketing data FROM MY FUCKING LIVING ROOM? They thought this was okay? That we were just going to take it? It isn't bad enough that I am totally saturated with advertisement all day long, now they have to collect data on how to do it better by monitoring the events in my house? They wanted to monitor my body language and heart rate to determine which new flavour of Mountain Dew to push? How about how I respond to ANY television image? Political ads? The implications for this are quite staggering.

XBox One: No. Fucking. Way.
 

fucker_sl

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One thing is certain for me - there will never be a fucking Kinect, XBox One, or possibly even any Microsoft product in my home. Period.

I don't care that it can operate offline now. The fast one they tried to pull on consumers is mind boggling. They want to collect marketing data FROM MY FUCKING LIVING ROOM? They thought this was okay? That we were just going to take it? It isn't bad enough that I am totally saturated with advertisement all day long, now they have to collect data on how to do it better by monitoring the events in my house? They wanted to monitor my body language and heart rate to determine which new flavour of Mountain Dew to push? How about how I respond to ANY television image? Political ads? The implications for this are quite staggering.

XBox One: No. Fucking. Way.
this

this a million times

the fact every single one of you is not outraged by this is mindboggling. Socialist masses? seriously Northerner?

This is lightyears different from having videogames adds on various websites because i go on steam or i have watched few trailers on youtube. This is a proactive attempt to enter inside my living space and use every bit of my life to trow at me stuff i dont need

fuck that
 

Xexx

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Amazon CA and Amazon UK both have day 1 editions of the Xb1 for sale. Amazon.ca wont ship internationally but Amazon.uk will (for 50+ extra, 100 if you want it within 2-3 days or so). The Uk also apparently has some PS4 preorders left as well.
 

Szlia

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It should be noted that the european PS4 and XB1 will have a european BluRay player which will prevent you from watching most BluRay movies bought in the US.
 

DMK_sl

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this

this a million times

the fact every single one of you is not outraged by this is mindboggling. Socialist masses? seriously Northerner?

This is lightyears different from having videogames adds on various websites because i go on steam or i have watched few trailers on youtube. This is a proactive attempt to enter inside my living space and use every bit of my life to trow at me stuff i dont need

fuck that
I see your point but nearly EVERY company wishes they could do what Microsoft tried to do. Nearly every company would do it if they could. Microsoft is shit but so is nearly every other big company. I simply won't have my Kinect plugged in.. ever.
 

Foggy

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I see your point but nearly EVERY company wishes they could do what Microsoft tried to do. Nearly every company would do it if they could. Microsoft is shit but so is nearly every other big company. I simply won't have my Kinect plugged in.. ever.
Such an apologist. It doesn't matter if every companywantsto do it, MicrosoftISdoing it. They deserved to be fucked over this especially since they are the first. Everybody else thinking of ways to do this need to be sent a message.
 

DMK_sl

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Such an apologist. It doesn't matter if every companywantsto do it, MicrosoftISdoing it. They deserved to be fucked over this especially since they are the first. Everybody else thinking of ways to do this need to be sent a message.
I'm not really sure where I was apologizing. Microsoft is shit. I clearly stated that. I could sit here all day and point out everything that makes you a hypocrite for taking this moral stance against Microsoft when there are a million material items in your life that would go against this moral code you are trying to portray. For the third time Microsoft are a fucken terrible company. I only purchased mine after finding the Kinect doesn't have to be plugged in.