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Utnayan

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None of that puts into question the validity of what he says.
I would say making sure you tote the company line protecting who is paying you to keep the doors open, definitely qualifies as to why one should question the validity of what he says.

Welcome to the real world?
 

Heckler_sl

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I would say making sure you tote the company line protecting who is paying you to keep the doors open, definitely qualifies as to why one should question the validity of what he says.
You're grasping at straws here. You're somehow implying that Sony would reprimand Neil Druckmann in any sort of meaningful way if he were to say something negative about the company, while the easier explanation would be that they are simply happy about their relationship, and the position they are in. This is further staved by the massive amount of leeway Sony grants its subsidiaries (I'm looking at you, Team Ico), on top of the generally awesome quality of games said subsidiaries deliver, and Sony allows them to deliver (Brand aside, TLOU was a risky project nonetheless). Your image of "the real world" does not concur with actual reality.
 

Abefroman

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You're grasping at straws here. You're somehow implying that Sony would reprimand Neil Druckmann in any sort of meaningful way if he were to say something negative about the company, while the easier explanation would be that they are simply happy about their relationship, and the position they are in. This is further staved by the massive amount of leeway Sony grants its subsidiaries (I'm looking at you, Team Ico), on top of the generally awesome quality of games said subsidiaries deliver, and Sony allows them to deliver (Brand aside, TLOU was a risky project nonetheless). Your image of "the real world" does not concur with actual reality.
You don't bite the hand that feeds you. Of course they said what they said. It's the same reason any player gets traded they have nothing but good things about how the new city has the best fans in the world. Just about everyone under any type of contract has a code of conduct they must follow.
 

Heckler_sl

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You don't bite the hand that feeds you. Of course they said what they said. It's the same reason any player gets traded they have nothing but good things about how the new city has the best fans in the world. Just about everyone under any type of contract has a code of conduct they must follow.
That would be true if Naughty Dog wasn't Sony biggest first party developer, as far as I know.
 

hodj

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Old news? Japan only? Go away Eyashusa?

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Think I found what this is referring to

Sony to charge monthly fee for multiplayer games on PS4 - Nikkei - Yahoo Finance

Price of PS+ going up to 10 dollars a month. No idea on the yearly price if that will change or not.
 

Szlia

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Statistics about video game players on PC has always been a nightmare, because you never know what criteria are used to form the numbers. You can usually assume the worst methodology because most of these numbers are published by organisations that have to promote video games (like the ESA), so they are most certainly counting every single person that ever played a round of solitaire just to show how old, diverse and numerous gamers are and how video games are part of mainstream culture and should be treated nicely by policy makers.
 

Utnayan

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That would be true if Naughty Dog wasn't Sony biggest first party developer, as far as I know.
Naughty Dog sells a lot of units that Sony will want to keep off the market for competition. That doesn't make the company line be tote any less. Especially in this ridiculous industry. Naughty Dog has just as much to lose as Sony does should a relationship go south. Especially with all the cash Naughty Dog is given by Sony to make sure they do not release cross platform. The only reason why Naughty Dog isn't cross platform is because Sony pays them through the ass, and they enjoy having that creative freedom in an industry where 99.9% of development companies have zero creative control in top down development/publishing pushes.
 

khalid

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It will. And it isn't a naive opinion. You know I would never stand behind such a comment in the times I have posted here if I didn't 100% truly believe in it.
What a croc of shit. "You would never stand behind a comment", look, just because someone believes something crazy doesn't mean that crazy thing has any more validity. You are straight up wrong on this. You believing it doesn't make it true. It just means you are delusional.
 

Heckler_sl

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Naughty Dog sells a lot of units that Sony will want to keep off the market for competition. That doesn't make the company line be tote any less. Especially in this ridiculous industry. Naughty Dog has just as much to lose as Sony does should a relationship go south. Especially with all the cash Naughty Dog is given by Sony to make sure they do not release cross platform. The only reason why Naughty Dog isn't cross platform is because Sony pays them through the ass, and they enjoy having that creative freedom in an industry where 99.9% of development companies have zero creative control in top down development/publishing pushes.
For the third time, money doesn't have to be the only benefit from being a console exclusive developer. I'm not even sure how you can even attempt to dispute this, given the quality of games that studio has churned out over the course of their existence.
 

Sean_sl

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Naughty Dog is owned by Sony, they are not someone who Sony pays off to stay exclusive. Naughty Dog is also home to ICE, one of Sony's technology groups.

The amount of stupid and bad info in this thread is staggering. Certain people should stop posting here period.
 

Utnayan

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For the third time, money doesn't have to be the only benefit from being a console exclusive developer. I'm not even sure how you can even attempt to dispute this, given the quality of games that studio has churned out over the course of their existence.
What other benefit is there in this industry? Everything is for the almighty dollar. That's all these people care about. Are you new to the industry? Or work in it and are new? Give it 2 years.

Khalid, go run along and play in traffic.
 

khalid

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I'm sure glad Utnayan has decided to move his particular brand of craziness to this forum instead of staying in the MMO forum heh. Now we can look forward to every new game thread being shit up by him ranting about anonymous sources telling him games are shit, how he is taking notes on other posters, his history as a minnesota vikings player and how game developers raped him as a small child.
 

Utnayan

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And then what?
Either ignore what you see in your every day life, or put your hands up to your ears when you are told what is happening before your very eyes.

Your choice. Veteran Dev.
 

hodj

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I just bought a sub for the first time so I wasn't even aware of the per month pricing. Looks like that article I posted was repeating a Nikkea press release that hasn't been sourced yet. So who knows. I'm so confused.
 

Heckler_sl

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Either ignore what you see in your every day life, or put your hands up to your ears when you are told what is happening before your very eyes.

Your choice. Veteran Dev.
I literally can not figure out what you're attempting to say. Are you saying that everything in this industry is about making the most amount of money? Because that's demonstrably false. Just look at the amount of love that was put into TLOU for the best example, not to mention games such as SOTC, ICO and Journey.
 

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Isn't naughty dog wholly owned by sony?


Edit: Yup they are.

Naughty Dog

Naughty Dog became a wholly owned subsidiary of Sony Computer Entertainment, publishers of our Crash franchise and creators of the PlayStation family of consoles, in 2001