DickTrickle
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The Big Bad Console Thread - Sway your Station with an Xboner !
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Utnayan
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So they don't open themselves up to lawsuits from false advertising. Got it.
a_skeleton_03, you never disappoint me. If I could buy you pancakes right now, I would.
Foggy
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Their internal number will be based primarily off financials. In that, what % can fail that Sony will replace and find it financially acceptable. Like you pointed out, there isn't a realistic way for Sony to come up with an accurate number based off of testing a large amount of units.
Vaclav
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Oh voluntary ones definitely are good publicity that's an absolute, won't disagree with that - I wasn't trying to claim that they were some bastions of generosity. But lets say there's a hypothetical 10% fail rate - they're either going to recall all the unsold systems before they're sold and retest/fix them before they're rereleased into the wild or something else that's going to show their hand about the quantity being severe. If it's in the 1-2% range you'll probably stick with the "deal with problems individually" method like normal however.
Because as stated, they will be most cost efficient to just replace everything at a point and prevent new sales where a common flaws exist to happen. And they've demonstrated great willingness to do such in the past.
Nvidia Shield + PC is something I want to try along the same vein, I just need to find somebody with a coupon for it.
hodj
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Every number stated as fact when it comes to recall just proves how wrong the person stating them is.
There is no formula and every company treats every single individual recall differently.
Chrysler refuses NHTSA demand for 2.7 million Jeep SUV recall - Jun. 4, 2013
They then changed their stance like a week later because of the backlash.
The NHTSA requested the company to do it and they downright refused .... nothing out there can make Sony do a recall or even admit a problem if they just don't want to.
Vaclav
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Honestly, from reading that article I think they were more worried about future sales than current ones - it was special laptops for people yachting and such and only a few failed spec, but apparently they charge ridiculous amounts for said laptops. So they probably sell only a few hundred of the laptop a year, and losing even 1-2 of those customers could put the entire division in jeopardy. (I'd compare it to my previous work - as a store with a luxury section + normal sections - our luxury customers we kissed their asses many times over to make sure we didn't lose profitability from those departments - because $40/lb cheeses and the like are going to sell to our top 1% customers like Cal Ripken Jr., not the mom raising 3 kids on $30k household income)
At least that was my take on it. Which is likely biased by some of the quick response and complaints responded to by that one smartphone that claimed to be completely waterproof and had some issues with it's antennae going wonky for a while after being submerged even though as a mini-tablet it worked fine, the antennae would be FUBAR until the unit was bone dry. Forget if I ever saw a followup that they did anything about it though since I could care less about a waterproof phone.
My point wasn't that they were generous - my point was if a problem is building up mass, they've got a history of dealing with it PREEMPTIVELY rather than REFLEXIVELY. Preemptive responses don't really mesh well with obfuscation - benign or malign reasoning behind it is completely tangential to what I was pointing out. Possibly because of lawsuit worries, possibly because they're nice - it doesn't matter - their history is to deal with it before it gets to critical mass, not after - so obfuscation doesn't make sense for them to do. [In fact searches of "Sony denies problems" and the like I can only find isolated incidents]
Vaclav
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That's quite possibly true that they could, I have no idea how recalls work precisely - but Sony hasn't been particularly afraid to issue recalls in the past even before requested.
Maybe they'd start to be subversive and obfuscate this time, anything is possible - but their history doesn't seem to imply that to be true since they've done so many recalls before being requested. But anything's possible. (Remember we're not talking Smedley's division - that one I'd not trust particularly - hardware is pretty far from his influence)
Noodleface
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Does anyone else sort of hope their PS4 bricks so they get a new fixed one rather than holding onto something that might brick much later?
Also, does anyone know which games are free for PS+ on ps3 this month?
Also, does anyone know which games are free for PS+ on ps3 this month?
Utnayan
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Good post Vac. The point I would make is that they are already throwing out low ball numbers and according to what we have see thus far, denying its an issue. Although I will freely admit that they may be waiting for all the facts. They also could be playing crowd control because of a competing product launching in six days and it may bolster Microsofts sales. Either or, my one experience with Sony when I needed support was shitty. An old 50 something inch rear projector TV that had notorious green hue issues that they denied were happening for months until they finally came clean when they knew it was a faulty pcb issue all along.
hodj
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Dragons Dogma with the expansion is free on ps+ for ps3 this month. Can't remember what else.
And yeah, if its gonna brick, brick now, not two years from now when Sony will charge me to fix it.
Abefroman
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I'm curious if they just got a bad batch of parts or if this is a design flaw or manufacturing problem. I'm really hoping it was just a bad batch of parts since it seems the majority are Amazon orders. I also don't understand how people can actually fucking defend this saying oh it's normal. Fucking console fanbois.
Utnayan
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You are one of my favorite posters. We need more of you and less of Foggy.
Needless
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This is pretty much what sold me on the PS4.. I wanna play D3 on my Vita bitches!
With that said, i'm gonna go pick mine up finally.. fingers crossed that it actually works!