Caliane
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eh. the comic is not perfect for sure. Lots of stupid edgy/juvenile shit for edgy/juveniles sake. It would have been better to keep that plotline. but it absolutely did need tightening up.
the story is ultimately a giant criticism of military industrial complex, and corporate America. Superheroes are a faulty product the Company is trying to sell to the military for 80 years. they keep trying over and over. new version of the product, new marketing, etc. never actually addressing whats wrong with the product, or building a product thats actually being asked for. like in the comics, 99% of supes aren't bullet proof. basically useless for actual war. when the "take over of the government" occurs, the military just shoots them all. guns, missiles, etc. theres only a few that require special concerns really. the super hero industry is of course like american idol and the like. which is something they did mirror into the show well. its all fake. manufactured. And not like Tiger and Bunny, where its corporate, and televised/controlled, but still they are actually doing real rescue and law enforcement work.
so yeah, the comic does not do a good job on explaining why or how Noir exists. why babysit Homelander if they have a clone that will listen to them? best argument is, to play them off each other. but thats not REALLY shown at all. what controls do they have for noir?
this is 100% the kind of thing that could have been reworked to make it fit better.
here the answer is probably best in the product idea. same product, different label. lays chips, also sold as great value chips at walmart. or, perhaps its chevy denali. suv, versus truck..
or just model 2.1.5e. noir is model 2.1.5.i. 2004-2007
probably best todo the brand name option. homelander is the brand name, and has the ego from it. noir is the same chips, sold under a different name, at the box store. maybe there are even a bunch of Noirs.
why does homelander so easily just accept he is insane and seeing things? could have done a better job with this as well. really doesn't work nowadays with deep fakes. the photo evidence that set him off, could be easily faked. so they would have to lean more into the direct gaslighting and seeing things. (which in a world of supers, you'd think the first reaction would be to assume mind control) the "oh no, I've gone insane. well, I guess I better just roll with it, and take over the world, and kill everyone in my way, since I have no other option" needs a better setup.
best way would to have it not be JUST Noir. have it be a group of people. his doctor, noir, etc. a bunch of people around homelander that gaslight him. push him over the edge, into a corner. mind control/shapeshifting could also be a factor here. like, lets say its ultimately all Noir. but have Noir force a shapeshifter to pretend to be a bunch of trusted people around homelander. This could also work well for tv. set up this shapeshifter. make everything think they are the mastermind. then the Noir reveal.
but also, homelander in the comics was never kept in check with powers. he wasn't THAT all powerful in the first place. he is the best/closest to actually being viable as a military weapon. (even then ultimately a failure, as he's stupid and emotional) he was kept in check by a desperate need for approval from the corporate vice president. was a man in the comic, but made into the mommy from Vought in the show here. comic he does not die either.
you know, I can't remember if there are any shapeshifters or mind control in the comics... the problem is, either of those WOULD be way too useful for military intelligence. so, would probably break the idea of them all being a product not fit for purpose.
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