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yeah Sage is definitely orchestrating things, she left her master-plan-book behind knowing Homelander/Firecracker will pick it up and use it, so her "plan" will continue.

I'd guess she has one of two plans: setup civil war between supes and normies and then either supes win, essentially Planet of the Apes (Supes), OR she knows a lot about the virus already and is setting up a scenario where the virus is released and wipes out supes or mutates and wipes out normies. She did mention she could "cure cancer at 12" or whatever so its not that wild to believe she already has created an airborne virus that can kill who she wants, the question just is who. Does she hate herself or normies more?

the funny thing is you can also see how a group of retarded writers think they are being clever with all these end games too. "We have to commit mass suicide to save the planet" or "Minorities could rise up and wipe out the majority if they wanted, they are just too good and saintly to go through with it even though the majority are tyrants to them". Homelander is just a tool to show how evil operates for them, and they are still pissed he is everyone's favorite character lol

The episode has good structural bones and scene setups but it keeps bumping up HARD against the biggest problem now: the major characters have such ludicrously thick plot armor that they keep getting into outrageous "ok they are dead now" situations and walk away with just a bruise. Literally every character should have died this episode with season 1 rules but nothing happens. The only death is some weirdo spiderman deviant we don't give a shit about. Who cares about stakes and tension if you know Butcher, Deep, A-Train, Hughie, MM, and Starlight can never die no matter what?

Annie has also tossed around cars and punched through safe steel walls, some bolts attached to wood should be zero issue for her.

spronk said:

Annie has also tossed around cars and punched through safe steel walls, some bolts attached to wood should be zero issue for her.

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...but didn't you see that the chain is titanium? TITANIUM!! There's no way to get out of that!

Nitpick I noticed for this episode: It didn't seem to have internal consistency within itself in regards to the octopus. At the beginning they are laying in bed, like they just had "sex" and she was talking fine. So unless they laid down a second before the cameras started rolling, it makes no sense that she had trouble breathing and died so fast after Deep broke her tank.

Looking online, they can survive up to 20-30 minutes on average outside water

That whole scene mostly felt like a way to make the Deep irredeemable - he’s been a douche/jerk and selfish, but he has always been protective with aquatic stuff unless forced.

This scene just mostly felt like self-serving murder

They’re basically pulling a Gul Dukat - they realize they wrote the character a little too sympathetic/likable, so they’re doing a major shift so the audience will be fine with him dying

Sage is no Kai Winn, but this new Odo variation has a nice ass. I do agree for the finale *someone* needs to die but without knowing the direction S5 is going in can't tell who.

My order of likely deaths at end of season

1) Ryan
2) Ashley
3) MM
4) Neumann

Ryan is most likely because he is only thing keeping Butcher from going plan “kill all Supes”.

Ashley next for obvious reasons

MM next because he is sort of the glue of the team.

Neumann last because i could see her having a change of heart

i know who the shapeshifter is, think about who the most fucked up person it would be to have sex with hughie

his mom

I feel like I missed something with Noir. I thought he disappeared and then they got some random actor to take his place for photo ops and such. But it seemed like he had Noir's super powers last episode during the fight, along with flight.

I guess the random actor they got was in actuality an extremely strong supe near Noir (a member of the 7's) power level?

Or is it the real Noir and something changed that I don't remember last season?

I thought it was made clear that Noir 2 was a supe actor pretending to be Noir 1.

They haven't specified what Noir 2's powers are, beyond flight and 'standard' supe strength and durability / regeneration.
Edit: and presumably acrobatics / flexibility, if he was going to be in Vought's Cirque du Soleil equivalent.

They’re going to save most of the deaths for the final season - as for your Sage theory, I think she might take the place of the person Butcher sees at the end of the comics that enables his plan. Then they’ll make it into some 5D chess thing even though it seems to work against her interests

Dr.Retarded said:

Yeah you can say this was the best episode of the season but if there were six other episodes that all sucked, what the hell is the point of the show. It's still not an amazing episode, more akin to the turd in the portapotty with the least kernels of corn.

I'm sure the season finale will be crazy and goofy or whatever, but who really cares. It's been hijacked, and I can't imagine next seasons going to be any better, if not worse, especially dependent upon what happens in the election, considering how hard they're rolling on current day politics being infused into every scene of the show.

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This episode was easily the best of the season and I expect the next one will be better. They've stalled the story so much to tell their truthcon, federalist society, abortion, euthanasia side stories. S2 was the stormfront season, S3 was SB. This season had nothing comparable. It's still following the same formula of 1 mission/episode but they advance the story at a snail's pace. The final episode will surely be eventful and will have the violent insurrection on Jan 6 and that's where the predicted deaths will happen and Homelander/Trump will murder a lot of people.

This, but not in his imagination.

The Presidential assassination episode is about to get way more interesting!

If singer is getting assassinated I hope they don't get all lame about it and delay or edit the episode.

lol I didn't think about that

You can't cut a major plotpoint when it is the season finale without making it not make any sense. Episode doesn't come out for close to a week - I think at best they'll throw a disclaimer up before the episode and at worst they might do a small edit/cut of a scene.