The Expanse

Minor nick-pick, but anyone else notice the shots of Jupiter from Ganymede vary wildly? Sometimes Jupiter is huge other times it's fairly distant. The latter is accurate as, I believe, Ganymede is one of Jupiter's most outer satellites.

From Ganymede Jupiter would have an angular diameter of about 400 arc minutes. In contrast the angular diameter of the Moon from Earth is 31 arc minutes.

If you held your hand out at arms length and made devil-horns with your fingers outstretched then that would be close to the size of Jupiter in the night sky over Ganymede.

Nidhogg said:

Haha cucumber face is priceless.

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spronk said:

http://i.imgur.com/IPPOG4R.jpg

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That was fucking amazing! That scene was so good with her antics. Solid episode to set up the finale, thought Errinwright's video was just crazy; some shit is going to go down.

I wonder if those were hard for her to do. I've heard actors talk about eating scenes and they all say those scenes suck a lot more than you'd expect if you've never done one. If you have to do it more than once you get SO full. And she's really going to fuckin town on those nummy nummy sammiches!

The deconstruction was awesome, are those guys dead then? Decent finale, but it kind of fizzled out honestly.

yeah the guys are dead in the poisonous atmosphere of venus. the protomolecule took apart the ship because it needed to learn how it works (new tech), it had already sampled thousands of human beings so didn't really care about them but they all died in a few seconds I'd assume



Really enjoyed the proto hybrid, it looked cool and scary to me. I was just on the edge of my seat going OH FUCK OH FUCK OH FUCK every time it stared at Holden



Its a bummer they ended where they did, I would have preferred season 2 to end at the last chapter of book 2 but oh well

Cybsled said:

Most shows (including Star Trek) use the device of an inertial dampener to get around that tricky aspect of physics. Actually, that same type of effect is why Eros was able to move so fast, but Miller didn't feel anything. However, the level of human technology in the show hasn't figured out that trick yet.

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I didn't know either until that conversation back when in this thread but I watched the station crew launch yesterday and it showed it in good detail. They had a stuffed animal on a string which was always downward held by gravity/force. When they did the final booster drop the astronauts lunged forward from going booster to nothing and the animal floated away. As long as force was applied it was as if they had gravity same as when sitting on the launch pad in directional force.

Not sure if that is why Russia stuck that stuffed dog animal hanging down in there but it showed it well.

Ya. the crew would be dead/soon to die due to the atmosphere. Not instantly, as they were still high enough in the air that the massive heat wouldn't be an issue and it is less acidic in the higher portions. Actually, very high in the atmosphere the pressure is similar to Earth and much cooler (still over 100 degrees, but human survivable temp wise with special suits). Still nothing for humans to breath that is good for you, though.

I did like how the scientist guy, even though he was clearly dying, could still manage a slight smile/could see he was "happy". Makes sense. His whole life revolved around evidence of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe and only a super intelligent alien species could have pulled off what just happened to them. He basically got his life's wish, even though the evidence was going to kill him.

Ya, I am wondering about that. They seem to be playing up the mystery element with the protomolecule in the show more than in the book.

In the book, they see the proto-soldier on video pretty fast and what happens at Venus
In the show, they don't share the proto-solider stuff until later (so less people know about it) and who knows how they will handle the Venus event

Love the episode, love the show, but they have a problem.

They've got one awesome character.
One very good character that's presumably dead.
Then a few goodish to good character's ,most of which don't get much screen time.
one mediocre character
Then there's the main character, he's so fucking bad. when he's neutered he's a little bitch, when he's not he goes full fucking fanatic, there's no subtlety or development to him, he just find away to take a complete extreme, whenever he gets a chance. He takes up to much screen time, and effects the plot to greatly, that he's a hindrance to the show it's just god damned annoying. It's funny because when he was first introduce I got the impression I might like him, and then once the plot started coming into place and he starts making decisions, just a complete 180.


ps. I thought that was Adam Savage, I know he digs the show and I remember him talking about it, but then I saw another frame and it didn't quite look like him so I wasn't 100% until reading this page.

physics breaking space station was pretty bad. But, ground-orbit super telekinesis=humanity 100% fucked. I'm kindof wondering how the books go, because this from the show would present a scenario where its already too late. abandoning Sol is the only option, for humanity to not be entirely consumed.

The finale made me love Amos even more. I wasn't sure at the start of season 1, but he is easily the most nuanced guy on the show and played very well.

Caliane said:

physics breaking space station was pretty bad. But, ground-orbit super telekinesis=humanity 100% fucked. I'm kindof wondering how the books go, because this from the show would present a scenario where its already too late. abandoning Sol is the only option, for humanity to not be entirely consumed.

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what is the physics breaking space station? And there is no telekinesis involved here, before The Arbogast was destroyed we saw it was infiltrated by floating blue protomolecule mites, presumably some sort of nanotech disassemblers that could rapidly attach to the hull and disassemble and study the ship. Its why it was so stupid of them to head towards the atmosphere, they were pretty safe (so far) in space far, far away from what they saw was going on at the crash impact crater.

and humans being humans, the martians then decided THEY needed to get closer to the surface before the earthers did, and both groups paid the price for their monkey curiosity.

Qhue said:

The finale made me love Amos even more. I wasn't sure at the start of season 1, but he is easily the most nuanced guy on the show and played very well.

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