The First Descendant
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Vorph
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I can't imagine doing them with anything but a maxed out Ult. Bunny. With her, they are super easy even with only 6.5k def and 8.5k hp.
Nexon needs to look up the definition of "speedrun" though, because three open areas with annoying puzzles that mostly involve standing still connected by obnoxiously long and empty tunnels ain't it.
Sabbat
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4th column requires 3 points to unlock, according to that screenshot, you have 1 point left to spend.
Zindan
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That doesn't make sense given how the other columns have worked. Once a column was opened, I could place a point into it. The 4th column opened at 5 total points, but I cannot place a point there.
Sabbat
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Vorph
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What he's saying is that each node costs 3 points in that column. Not sure what the logic is since they're all rather shitty; even after the hotfix removes the negatives I still don't see myself ever using anything besides Biodensity (Shield Particle for Enzo) and Neurostimulation, plus whatever's relevant for the daily invasion.
It's so weird to see a company react immediately not to nerf everything that benefits players with a sledgehammer but to fix the things that affect them negatively. I don't really think they needed to make the invasions easier though, the only problems were with Hailey's drop rates/2 week+ time-gating and the way they tried to combine "speedrunning" with weird memory puzzles.
P.S. Today's missions are quite a bit harder than yesterday's despite not having the dumb puzzles. Best advice if you're using Bunny is do not try to kill the boss just by running in circles. Once I get the immunity off the boss I burn it down fast with my Enduring Legacy. With Forgottense it was the difference between having to deal with 3 immune phases and burning him down completely after the first one with almost 90 seconds left on the clock for gold. About to do Hagios now,
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Lenas
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To be completely fair you've logged 10 hours a day since release and you're using the best weapon in the game. I would not expect difficulty to register at your level.
Vorph
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There's a lot of afk time in there, either standing in Albion because it takes forever to get kicked there or just being on the title screen from getting kicked in the field. I do probably have close to 400 actual hours at this point though. It's not like you need that much time invested to have a setup that's more than adequate for everything except Gluttony; I've farmed and upgraded all sorts of stuff that I don't even use. It's basically Ult Bunny for almost everything except Ult. Lepic for colossi, and the only two guns I really ever use are Thunder Cage and Enduring Legacy. Everything else has a niche purpose at best. I get that people want to be able to use what they like and not what's the absolute best, but that's not how the game works. Bunny was always going to be in a tier of her own for anything that has a timer on it, and similarly, Enduring Legacy has no real competition when it comes to putting out raw dps when you've got a immunity phase timer ticking fast and a massive shield to break through before you can even scratch the boss' HP.
The real problem is that they made the time-gating on Hailey so ridiculous that nobody would even consider just accepting their current gear level is only good for a silver time. And I don't blame them for that, it would increase the minimum amount of farming to 16 days with perfect RNG, and probably closer to a month being realistic. She isn't even an ultimate ffs, plus the last descendant added took like a couple hours to farm (and hopefully the upcoming changes mean that any stupid ideas they had for Ult. Freyna will be scrapped before they ever go live too).
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Zindan
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Lenas
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You can actually see these in game. Escape menu, event tab on the right, click 'Descendant's Daily Tasks' for a list.
AladainAF
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I really liked the missions -today- but that shit yesterday was overtuned AF. I'm a fully cata optimized ultimate bunny, and I still feel the missions today are a bit overtuned in terms of the time given for gold. I was able to gold them, but both times within seconds, but obviously bunny will excel at the missions today. Yesterday though? I never could manage to do the tower mission. That boss was fucking disgusting. Even getting the towers without issue, the boss by itself was complete rape. The color tile mission I was able to do fairly easy (as bunny can jump up and down while waiting and still do damage) but I agree with the devs changes here. Personally taking out the bombers that destroy the tiles completely might be a bit TOO nerfed, they could have just made them walk much more slowly.
I applaud the devs for constantly listening here, but they need to figure out that solo-only content for a game like this does not work. They did this during the hard infiltrations making them solo (or group) only and it didnt work either, that was the largest initial complaint when the game was released.
Everything they come out with needs to be able to be matchmakeable. In fact, even in its overtuned state, it wouldn't be bad if it wasn't solo. Their match making system has been really stellar, and they should use it for everything.
I applaud the devs for constantly listening here, but they need to figure out that solo-only content for a game like this does not work. They did this during the hard infiltrations making them solo (or group) only and it didnt work either, that was the largest initial complaint when the game was released.
Everything they come out with needs to be able to be matchmakeable. In fact, even in its overtuned state, it wouldn't be bad if it wasn't solo. Their match making system has been really stellar, and they should use it for everything.
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AladainAF
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Zindan
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Hm, I wouldn't worry much about the Season stuff til after it gets fully adjusted next week. The Invasion Dungeons, Inversion Perks and Invasion Objectives are the "new" stuff, everything else has been QoL additions.
Vorph
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This is the setup I use for invasions:
Damage is never an issue with Bunny vs. trash, so never running out of MP is my #1 priority for a dungeon build. I still can't decide if I like Energy Collection better than MP Collector so I end up swapping between those two a lot.
And the key to the bosses is Enduring Legacy:
External Components are DEF/MP Rec/HP, DEF/MP Rec/Max MP, HP/MP Rec/DEF, HP/Pickup Radius/Equip Drop, 4pc Annihilation set.
And this is my reactor (BIS is actually crit dmg + singular skill power, with a swap from Singular Specialist to Focus on Singular... haven't found that on a TC reactor yet though):
Those stats are enough to step out in the open and face tank any of the bosses in order to burn them down in one EL mag (can't do anything fancy there because of Sharp Precision Shot). Had about a minute left on first try of both invasions yesterday, then 90 seconds or so remaining on the redo.
Today's first run at Magister Lab, which was sloppy as hell:
Also, WTF? I only got 3 Hailey Data Chips at the end. They said that shit was going to be doubled after the hotfix...
Edit: It seems they meant they doubled the drop rate of farming Hailey parts from the 4 regular HM dungeons where they can also drop from the boss. So instead of it being like 5% maybe it'll be 10% now.... that's fucking retarded, there's no way I'm grinding a million random useless dungeons to [maybe] speed her up a day or two. It was the invasion amount that needed to be (massively, not just 2x) increased. Going from Luna who didn't even take 12 hours (more like 4 even if you were unlucky) all the way up to "12 days on average" is insane. 12 days on average is bullshit anyway, it was 12 days absolute minimum and more like 20 days on average.
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AladainAF
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Yeah, we run the exact same setup mod for mod, and a TC mounted reactor. I had no troubles with the tower (despite it being annoying as fuck) but I had so many problems with the boss, only once making it to phase 2 only to die and have to restart and I was like "fuck this mess" and bailed. I had no problem with the color change boss thing, nor breaking their shield, etc.
Zindan
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Anyone find a mission in Sterile Lands that spawns a "Commander"? The two main gold/kuiper missions do not. None of the Reactors spawn them. So far, I've gotten Commander kills in the Dungeons. In Kingston, the Reactor boss counted, while in Fortress one of the Barrier missions spawned one that counted.
Edit: Nevermind, it seems YOU have to get the killing blow for all these objectives.
Edit: Nevermind, it seems YOU have to get the killing blow for all these objectives.
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