The Flash

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Homsar

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I never liked Wally West until he became the Flash. I found him 10x more interesting as the Flash than Barry Allen.
what Wally west are we talking about? I never cared for Bart or read the earth 52 Wally West thats going to be appearing soon.
 

Malkav

French Madman
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My wife called it about halfway into the episode.
Yeah that was pretty obvious. Introducing the daughter and introducing Wells as someone who just profits from the metahuman situation in Earth 2, and then all of a sudden he decides to act and go after Zoom.
 

Ambiturner

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Something that really bothers me is how inconsistent Barry's speed is. There's no reason he should have had any trouble bum rushing Linda when he can outrun bullets and even run fast enough to go back in time.
 

Shonuff

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Something that really bothers me is how inconsistent Barry's speed is. There's no reason he should have had any trouble bum rushing Linda when he can outrun bullets and even run fast enough to go back in time.
New to comic books? Flash is one of the most inconsistent characters there is. Because if he's at his best, he can run backwards through time and rip your Dad's dick off before you are conceived. Godmode is boring.

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Ganthorn

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Something that really bothers me is how inconsistent Barry's speed is. There's no reason he should have had any trouble bum rushing Linda when he can outrun bullets and even run fast enough to go back in time.
That always irks me a tiny bit but like lyrical said if he went full power on everything they would have to be throwing superman power level metas at him every week.
 

Gavinmad

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Speedsters in general are the most inconsistent superheroes and the speed force is just about the biggest deus ex machina in comics. Hell, look at the difference between Quicksilvers in DoFP vs Age of Ultron. Avengers Quicksilver is fast, but within reason and clearly has limitations in his stamina. DoFP Quicksilver is so obnoxiously fast that he can move at superspeed inside his own superspeed. Like, time was basically stopped during that scene and then he was still able to superspeed in that timestop. Afterwards he isn't even breathing hard.
 

Chukzombi

Millie's Staff Member
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its best not to think about such things, like why do these central city meta human villains continue to live in central city and even commit crimes there with full knowledge that there is a guy that will catch you and toss you in meta human gitmo or just straight up kill you? at least batman and superman was a trouble magnet for villains trying to challenge them. these guys are just trying to score phat l00t for themselves, grab a train outta there.
 

Shonuff

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That always irks me a tiny bit but like lyrical said if he went full power on everything they would have to be throwing superman power level metas at him every week.
They should have never let his power creep like they have. I know they wanted to stay very close to the comic, but if you do that, you are going to have some absurd things happen.

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Shonuff

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Wally West was more interesting, because when he replaced Barry, he couldn't run faster than the speed of sound, he had limited stamina, and had to eat 20,000 tacos to power up. Low blood sugar was his Kryptonite. Then they had the issue where he learned how to untap his power, and it all became FUBAR from there.

If you look at the absurdity of the speed force, it grants:

- the ability to run through time

- the ability to regenerate like Wolverine

- the ability to draw mass and super strength

- the ability to become intangible

- the ability to deny people velocity, freezing them in place for an undetermined time

- the ability to run through time

- the ability to freeze molecules and create super dense objects

- the ability to stop aging

- ability to punch at FTL speeds (atomizing anything in front)

- the ability to have an invisibile forcefield on at all times, but it scales directly with speed

- ability to whatever the hell else is in the speed force at the time

I'm sure there's more, but pretty much, a guy like Wally West can reach into the speed force, and grab whatever ability he needs at the time. Talk about deus ex machina.
 

Chukzombi

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He can run through air quite well. Also vibrating through objects comes in handy. Don't forget he can shimmer his body and voice so you would never recognize him. There isn't much Barry can't do.

Oh and he can run through time
 

McCheese

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I understood the ending to mean that Zoom had sent Wells to Earth 1 with a mission (on threat of killing his daughter), but that he hadn't yet carried out that mission. Maybe he was supposed to report in, or maybe he was supposed to have finished already. Instead, Wells arrived and started his own plan to kill Zoom and save his daughter. Clearly, Wells is up to something, but I doubt he's purely working/being forced to work with Zoom. I'm sure he has his own agenda and plan for carrying it out.
 

Gavinmad

Mr. Poopybutthole
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My guess is that his agenda is he's willing to sacrifice all seven billion people of Earth 1 to kill Zoom and save his daughter.
 

Chukzombi

Millie's Staff Member
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he sees that barry is no jay garrick, he sees that barry is a potential superior to zoom, it caused him to rethink his plans . if he kills barry, wells gets his daughter back, but there is no guarantee zoom wont just kill him and her anyway. the worlds , all "52" of them are in peril if barry were to die, with wells helping barry find a wayto defeat zoom, there is some hope. wells is a genius, i imagine this problem is whats keeping him from completing his mission, whatever that is.
 

Gavinmad

Mr. Poopybutthole
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Except we don't know that Jay was actually a coward, maybe Zoom just plain outclassed him and Wells is biased because of what happened to his daughter.
 

Gavinmad

Mr. Poopybutthole
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Uh, are you guys forgetting that Barry was completely outclassed by the Reverse Flash and the only reason they didn't all die horribly is because Eddie committed suicide? I mean Jay obviously kept confronting Zoom just like Barry kept going after Thawne.
 

Sulrn

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Uh, are you guys forgetting that Barry was completely outclassed by the Reverse Flash and the only reason they didn't all die horribly is because Eddie committed suicide? I mean Jay obviously kept confronting Zoom just like Barry kept going after Thawne.
You're forgetting Olicity victory lap through central city on the way to Coast City. Arrow beat reverse once, no reason he couldn't do it twice.
 

Gavinmad

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You mean when Thawne let them beat him so he could talk Barry into creating the wormhole so he could get back home?