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Yeah, I have 3m plat burning a hole in my pocket without much to spend it on. I might snag Seru weapon AUGs, but kinda holding off on more of the Zeb stuff to filter out first.
The Heroes Journey (Multiclass EQemu Progression Server)
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Deruvian
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PoP really was the beginning of the end of EQ.
I feel for the designers. I think at the time the stuff was hard and there was supposed to be some continuity across expansions. I assume it was meant to let raiders that were still two expansions behind on Live have current content they could sink their teeth into. And some of that is cool, like I was using Vulak gloves until recently because they were still relevant. Which maybe I prefer as opposed to the WoW method which basically nuked maxed raid gear instantly with a new expansion. But as a modern player, it feels like 95% of the content in this expansion is just instantly useless. In Luclin you had some junk starter raids (the Deep, Akheva), but every other raid was relevant throughout the expansion. In PoP, most of the content both sucks for leveling and for raiding. It's sad as there are so many zones that seem like they could be cool, but there's just absolutely no reason to go there.
There also really isn't a proper dungeon in PoP. Maybe crypt of decay? There's something about the feel of a good dungeon with good loot/clickies/etc that I feel like is super memorable and PoP doesn't really have that.
I feel for the designers. I think at the time the stuff was hard and there was supposed to be some continuity across expansions. I assume it was meant to let raiders that were still two expansions behind on Live have current content they could sink their teeth into. And some of that is cool, like I was using Vulak gloves until recently because they were still relevant. Which maybe I prefer as opposed to the WoW method which basically nuked maxed raid gear instantly with a new expansion. But as a modern player, it feels like 95% of the content in this expansion is just instantly useless. In Luclin you had some junk starter raids (the Deep, Akheva), but every other raid was relevant throughout the expansion. In PoP, most of the content both sucks for leveling and for raiding. It's sad as there are so many zones that seem like they could be cool, but there's just absolutely no reason to go there.
There also really isn't a proper dungeon in PoP. Maybe crypt of decay? There's something about the feel of a good dungeon with good loot/clickies/etc that I feel like is super memorable and PoP doesn't really have that.
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Just AFK’d playing AoE bard songs in DN for the past day, from 61 to almost 64. Easy, brainless, no threat of dying, and got an item all the way to legendary. On CLR/BRD/ENC but could do it with any bard combo.
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No real trick, just save your cooldowns both defensive and offensive till 50% and burn. Can also try killing off the adds, they have ~10% of the hp he has so they die easy.
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I have one with like 1500AA but he needs to be re-geared with Spell dmg stuff as I geared him up with attack and Hdex and he kinda blows. took him into NTOV to see WTF was up and he got destroyed by first dragon there but there was also like 5-6 adds too, lol. Just not enough sustain without spell/heal dmg. He wasnt 100% bis or anything but enough shit that he should have walked into NTOV and owned the place.
Too bad because he was one of my fave, so fun to play. I used him mostly to farm up shit for all the epics I did. Another thing I found frustrating on the ranger is all his good CDs are on a 15 min timer. Which means you kill a boss, and then wait 13 min for refresh? Yeah, kinda sucks.
Problem with re-gearing is either spend $$$$$ on Legendary shit or be stuck somewhere leveling shit up for a week or two and spend $. I just never bothered since I have 5 other lv60. But im sure with POP gear 150Hdex and 600/hp/sp+ he could be all that and more since most gear has a ton of Hdex and SP/HP on it.
Too bad because he was one of my fave, so fun to play. I used him mostly to farm up shit for all the epics I did. Another thing I found frustrating on the ranger is all his good CDs are on a 15 min timer. Which means you kill a boss, and then wait 13 min for refresh? Yeah, kinda sucks.
Problem with re-gearing is either spend $$$$$ on Legendary shit or be stuck somewhere leveling shit up for a week or two and spend $. I just never bothered since I have 5 other lv60. But im sure with POP gear 150Hdex and 600/hp/sp+ he could be all that and more since most gear has a ton of Hdex and SP/HP on it.
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I think you are a prisoner of the moment looking at PoP that way. On HJ, PoP progression and leveling gets shrunk down to a weekend of hard grinding. On live 20 years ago it was a 6-12 month journey, where you would spend a months cutting your teeth on the progression of the 5 Tiers, leveling, and figuring shit out.
A criticism of a lack of traditional dungeons is totally fair, but we were happy to grind in PoN, CoD, Tactics, and Fire. The loot was great and had progression through the expansion that totally made sense in relation to all the content that had come before it. 61-65 was a serious grind, took a lot of time, and then you had all the AA's that were sitting there as a stretch goal once you had your levels. I think if someone tried to jump from level 50 vanilla EQ right into 51-65 PoP content, it wouldn't be that great of an experience, but for the folks that had been doing EQ since launch (Vanilla > Kunark > Velious > SoL > PoP) it was a wet dream.
Things that are an afterthought now, like Deity selection, Factions, and items/quests that referenced the gods where all paid off in the most awesome ways imaginable. The expansion was truly epic.
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The beginning of the end for EQ was World of Warcraft releasing around the POP->GOD time frame. IMO, if WOW never happened EQ would have still grown from that point. The problem with EQ was always the time commitment you needed to fully embrace the game. You essentially needed to be a no-lifer. If you were a casual you had no fucking chance. Wow respected your time more, and while, sure, it still took time to do shit, it was more manageable chunks of time that still left you with sense of accomplishing something. It was nothing like EQ was where certain days/nights you could actually lose exp or LFG for a hour which ended up being a loss in the end because of a shitty group or whatever.
Plus instanced content was the way to do it. I cant believe it took EQ so long after to adopt this. Let everyone enjoy the fucking game, instead of a few no lifers with bat phones in the middle of the night. Its a fucking PvE game that they made into a pseudo PvP game because of it.
Plus instanced content was the way to do it. I cant believe it took EQ so long after to adopt this. Let everyone enjoy the fucking game, instead of a few no lifers with bat phones in the middle of the night. Its a fucking PvE game that they made into a pseudo PvP game because of it.
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I lasted in an “uber guild” in EQ for a couple / few months.
circa somewhere between 2001-2003.Even being early 20s I couldn’t keep up (nor care to) with the nerds who played nonstop and expected you to also.
Expectation to raid X amount of nights in the middle of the week until like 3-4 AM eastern time sometimes. Meanwhile I had a full time job and social life. Waking up at 6:30-7 AM with 2-3 hours of sleep then they wanted you to play it all again the same night. Realistically I probably did this maybe 10-15 times total and said fuck this.
Also it was just incredibly boring to raid the same slog over and over again. The zones with a lot of trash, etc. just hours and hours to get to something. I can’t even stomach farming on this server and it’s super casual.
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Yeah i was 26 at the time, with a career and newly married like a year and a baby on the way. There was no way I could do any of that shit. But damn, was I addicted to this fucking game.I lasted in an “uber guild” in EQ for a couple / few months.
Even being early 20s I couldn’t keep up (nor care to) with the nerds who played nonstop and expected you to also.
Expectation to raid X amount of nights in the middle of the week until like 3-4 AM eastern time sometimes. Meanwhile I had a full time job and social life. Waking up at 6:30-7 AM with 2-3 hours of sleep then they wanted you to play it all again the same night. Realistically I probably did this maybe 10-15 times total and said fuck this.
Also it was just incredibly boring to raid the same slog over and over again. The zones with a lot of trash, etc. just hours and hours to get to something. I can’t even stomach farming on this server and it’s super casual.
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Kill the clones ASAP. They hit basically as hard as he does, but they die fast as shit.
Huh? Bards have one of the best curse cures out there, my man.
It's because at its core it's an SP build. Just like I discussed yesterday, a lot of builds give the impression that they'd be reliant on "white" damage but they aren't, at all. The white damage is just there as a supplement to spell damage.
I have a RNG/BRD/SK and it's one of my favorite builds because it's so braindead to play, tanky as shit, while still doing respectable DPS. I'm considering dropping SK for PAL though, since enough whining is occurring over the whole Zeb thing that I think more PAL buffs might be on the horizon. I think SK is just going to get forgotten about when that happens, because everybody just goes, "ToTC!" as a reason for why they apparently won't ever need any sort of sustain buffs.
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Instancing for raid stuff on Quarm truly proved the game is much better that way. It's the almost perfect version of EQ.
I still do prefer mob grinding and open world dungeons for exp though.
Have any of the WoW private servers done the multi class thing yet?
I still do prefer mob grinding and open world dungeons for exp though.
Have any of the WoW private servers done the multi class thing yet?
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Yep, I understand that EQ back in like 1999-2001 was a new thing and they didnt really know how to handle the content delivery and such. But in a PVE game everyone should have a chance to at least try whatever dungeon or raid.
Even take the normal dungeons, I remember on my server places like Seb had literal WAIT lists for camps and shit. 100% taken. this shit is unacceptable. if you can just spawn another instance of that place and let another 30 people enjoy it. shit people fighting for some corner of that place that had access to like 3 spawns, lol.
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Yeah I have rog in the building atm and thinking of dropping it for bard. Having to do ring of fire for curse cure is ass and you burn through charges.