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Bald Brah

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But on the other hand, Sofia has nothing to bargain with Oz about except safe passage for his mom. If she uses the kid as a bargaining chip, I'm sure Oz will tell her to fuck off. It's gonna be the mom that turns this whole thing upside down.

I bet Oz kills his own mom and that's the catalyst for him becoming a supervillain. He lets go of his last little bit of humanity.

It's already been foreshadowed with her asking him to do it because of her alzheimers.

Maybe he sacrifices his mom to take out Sophia and/or Sal.
 
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Chukzombi

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I bet Oz kills his own mom and that's the catalyst for him becoming a supervillain. He lets go of his last little bit of humanity.

It's already been foreshadowed with her asking him to do it because of her alzheimers.

Maybe he sacrifices his mom to take out Sophia and/or Sal.
The mom is portrayed as pretty annoying, but Oz really loves her, probably because she is all that he has left. I don't think he really gives a fuck about the money or even the power. I think he just wants people to respect him as a good person. That's all he seems to want from his mom too. Just acknowledge he is quality and not some runner up to his brothers who she clearly loves more than him.
 

Daidraco

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The mom is portrayed as pretty annoying, but Oz really loves her, probably because she is all that he has left. I don't think he really gives a fuck about the money or even the power. I think he just wants people to respect him as a good person. That's all he seems to want from his mom too. Just acknowledge he is quality and not some runner up to his brothers who she clearly loves more than him.
Yea, that point was mentioned with the Falcone kid (the druggy) earlier, right? But it just doesnt match up with a lot of the shit he does. He may ultimately want to be loved and respected, but his choices in the series so far do not make him that. So it kind of felt like, to me anyways, that it was a ham-fisted way of trying to give him a villain arc.

It doesnt ruin anything for me, just dont enjoy that "angle" that they are very lightly pushing.
 
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Warrik

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Farrell deserves all the awards for this. He is literally lost in the role. Overall It think the show has been pretty outstanding.
 
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Chukzombi

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Yea, that point was mentioned with the Falcone kid (the druggy) earlier, right? But it just doesnt match up with a lot of the shit he does. He may ultimately want to be loved and respected, but his choices in the series so far do not make him that. So it kind of felt like, to me anyways, that it was a ham-fisted way of trying to give him a villain arc.

It doesnt ruin anything for me, just dont enjoy that "angle" that they are very lightly pushing.
They did do something like this in Gotham, maybe that's a character arc for Penguin in the comics too, no idea.


Supposedly there are references to the Elliot family in episode 3 and Batman fans are saying that Hush is being hinted at.
 

Homsar

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I can't think of one show that's on the same level in 2024, makeup/costume writing/ acting should be wins
 
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Daidraco

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This episode was ok. Felt like they wanted to do more this episode than they .. had time for? Budget for? So everything just kind of felt rushed (imo).
 
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Malakriss

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This episode was shortened so they could make the finale longer, will be over an hour next week.
 
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Sevens

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The scene between Francis and Sophia was Top shelf "A" quality acting.


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Bald Brah

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The bomb thing was a little cliche but I see how they wanted to tie it in to his brothers. I hope they got their message in showing the door 15 times.

Still a good episode. I didn't think Sofia would be the final boss lol.
 
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Chukzombi

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Feels like the same beats from game of thrones. Ruthless female strikes a killing blow with a bomb nobody suspected from out of nowhere. At this point I'm expecting Vic to show up with some wild boys from crown point to run in at the last second. HBO is way too predictable.
 
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Bald Brah

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Feels like the same beats from game of thrones. Ruthless female strikes a killing blow with a bomb nobody suspected from out of nowhere. At this point I'm expecting Vic to show up with some wild boys from crown point to run in at the last second. HBO is way too predictable.

I like her. She's a way better final boss than daneyres. Couldn't stand that useless twat.

This Sophia actress pulled it off IMHO.
 
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Chukzombi

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I like her. She's a way better final boss than daneyres. Couldn't stand that useless twat.

This Sophia actress pulled it off IMHO.
I like her too, but it just feels likey they copy pasted Cersei blowing up the Sept.
 
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Sevens

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How tf did Salvatore suddenly die fighting os?
Well let's see
Old man already on heart medication (He was taking it in the earlier episode) gets into a fight where he is stressing his body beyond what it should be and poof he has a heart attack. It is not out of the realm of possibility (or even probability).
 
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BunkyChutt

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I assumed they were dick pills. I guess I could’ve paid closer attention . It did seem odd that he’d need them for a lady as sexy as Nadia. Still feels like they’re killing off too many characters . I sit corrected
 

Armadon

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Well that's how you nail an ending. That was a really good series. They need to do something with it though and hopefully not just a throw away series.
 
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Jive Turkey

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Goddamn, what a show.


A few weeks back I was talking to my wife about the show and how subtle and nuanced it is. I told her it had to be on purpose that Eve looked like Oswald's mom. Guess that has been confirmed
 
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Xevy

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A+ show. Great all the way through. The worst episodes were only bad because they felt too short.

I love a villain that you can root for while being disgusted by them. Actual complexity of a character. No "oh just kidding he's good now he was misunderstood!" Just a weird psychopath that was good at what he fucking did.
 
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