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Tara's episode worth it just for the running jugshots.
But yes, otherwise it was terrible.
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Tara's episode worth it just for the running jugshots.
But yes, otherwise it was terrible.
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Concerned that they're going to run Negan into the ground. Great character, great actor, but it's like oversalting your french fries, there comes a point where it's just too much salt.
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Season 1 was especially bad about this. It gets better except the Chuck Norris zombies which appear off and on the next 6 seasons after.
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It's been a long time but we discussed it way back when and I think you were even a part of it. I think it had to do with the original writer who left after S1 and caused the shitstorm episodes of S2( new writers ) and corrected to be comically ( haha ) correct by season 3.
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This returns in 10 days. WARNING Spoilers has spoilers.
The first is only where this season will end in relation to comics and where next season will be.
The second spoiler is episode 9 of Feb 12th breakdown of details. This is usually >90% accurate.
The last spoiler is lighter in each episodes details but gives you an idea the events of it. Obviously not as detailed as the individual breakdown.
Some of these spoilers contain the deaths of main/secondary characters so if you do not want to know, do not click!
The first is only where this season will end in relation to comics and where next season will be.
The second spoiler is episode 9 of Feb 12th breakdown of details. This is usually >90% accurate.
The last spoiler is lighter in each episodes details but gives you an idea the events of it. Obviously not as detailed as the individual breakdown.
Some of these spoilers contain the deaths of main/secondary characters so if you do not want to know, do not click!
The last episode of this season will be just prior to All out War in the comics. This means next year will be all the battle crap with Negan and his allies
Q&A Episode 7.9 "Rock in the Road"
1. In one of the promo pics everyone is looking at Enid. What's going on there?
After Gregory tells Rick and Co. to shove it and leave the Hilltop, Enid comes in and tells them to come outside. While they were wasting their time with Gregory, she went around the Hilltop and rounded up at least a dozen people who were willing to join Rick and fight the Saviors. Carl smiles at her in the end and seems pretty damn impressed.
2. How does the group escape the herd on the highway?
The Saviors had set up a walker fence/trap using cars, steel wire, and explosives. Rick's group loots the explosives, but then Rick and Michonne have the genius idea of driving down the highway using 2 cars connected by steel wire. It literally cuts all of the walkers in the herd in half. Super-gross but super-cool.
3. What happens to Father Gabriel?
You don't see who does it, but apparently Father Gabriel is ambushed by someone (presumably the "Boots" character we saw in the mid-season finale). Whoever it is forces him to loot the pantry at Alexandria and leave with them.
4. Is the identity of the mysterious "Boots" person revealed?
No, we don't see "Boots" nor the leader of the junkyard group in this episode.
5. How does Rick try to convince Ezekiel to join forces? Is he successful?
Rick tells Ezekiel the story of the "Rock in the Road." It's about a big rock that had been in the middle of the road for years, causing wagons to crash and lose their loads. Finally, a girl stopped to do something, to dig the rock up. She dug until her hands bled, and when she pulled the rock up she found a bag of gold underneath. Moral of the story -- the person who put the rock there made to where whoever made the effort to dig it up would be rewarded. Regardless, no, Rick isn't successful.
6. Why does Daryl stay at the Kingdom?
Because Daryl is wanted by the Saviors, Ezekiel offers him asylum since the Saviors have never been behind the Kingdom's walls and never will.
7. Does Morgan tell the group where Carol is?
No, he tells them that Carol was at the Kingdom after she was shot by a Savior, but after she healed she left.
8. Is Carol in this episode? What is she up to?
Briefly. She runs into Ben while out hunting, and scolds him for being out in the woods alone.
9. What is everyone's reaction to Shiva?
About like everyone else's. Complete shock and disbelief.
10. What happens at Alexandria with Simon and the Saviors?
Simon and the Saviors show up looking for Daryl, fully intending on killing him once found (thank God Daryl stayed at the Kingdom!).
11. How does the episode end?
It ends with Rick and the group going back to the houseboat to look for Father Gabriel and then they are surrounded by literally hundreds of the Garbage Pail Kids/junkyard group.
1. In one of the promo pics everyone is looking at Enid. What's going on there?
After Gregory tells Rick and Co. to shove it and leave the Hilltop, Enid comes in and tells them to come outside. While they were wasting their time with Gregory, she went around the Hilltop and rounded up at least a dozen people who were willing to join Rick and fight the Saviors. Carl smiles at her in the end and seems pretty damn impressed.
2. How does the group escape the herd on the highway?
The Saviors had set up a walker fence/trap using cars, steel wire, and explosives. Rick's group loots the explosives, but then Rick and Michonne have the genius idea of driving down the highway using 2 cars connected by steel wire. It literally cuts all of the walkers in the herd in half. Super-gross but super-cool.
3. What happens to Father Gabriel?
You don't see who does it, but apparently Father Gabriel is ambushed by someone (presumably the "Boots" character we saw in the mid-season finale). Whoever it is forces him to loot the pantry at Alexandria and leave with them.
4. Is the identity of the mysterious "Boots" person revealed?
No, we don't see "Boots" nor the leader of the junkyard group in this episode.
5. How does Rick try to convince Ezekiel to join forces? Is he successful?
Rick tells Ezekiel the story of the "Rock in the Road." It's about a big rock that had been in the middle of the road for years, causing wagons to crash and lose their loads. Finally, a girl stopped to do something, to dig the rock up. She dug until her hands bled, and when she pulled the rock up she found a bag of gold underneath. Moral of the story -- the person who put the rock there made to where whoever made the effort to dig it up would be rewarded. Regardless, no, Rick isn't successful.
6. Why does Daryl stay at the Kingdom?
Because Daryl is wanted by the Saviors, Ezekiel offers him asylum since the Saviors have never been behind the Kingdom's walls and never will.
7. Does Morgan tell the group where Carol is?
No, he tells them that Carol was at the Kingdom after she was shot by a Savior, but after she healed she left.
8. Is Carol in this episode? What is she up to?
Briefly. She runs into Ben while out hunting, and scolds him for being out in the woods alone.
9. What is everyone's reaction to Shiva?
About like everyone else's. Complete shock and disbelief.
10. What happens at Alexandria with Simon and the Saviors?
Simon and the Saviors show up looking for Daryl, fully intending on killing him once found (thank God Daryl stayed at the Kingdom!).
11. How does the episode end?
It ends with Rick and the group going back to the houseboat to look for Father Gabriel and then they are surrounded by literally hundreds of the Garbage Pail Kids/junkyard group.
Episode Breakdown - 7B
The following is a breakdown of the episodes in 7b. This is a compilation of filming info and educated speculation that we have gathered throughout the season. It does not cover everything that happens in each episode. While we believe most of this information is accurate, please note that anything can change by the time the episodes air.
Huge thanks goes to the sources that helped us with info this season!!! You are the BEST!!! As a friendly reminder, absolutely DO NOT share information from this breakdown on nonspoiler sites. If you are caught, you will be booted with no one exceptions. If you choose to share this with other spoiler sites please make sure you are giving proper credit.
Episode 7.9
Characters: Rick, Carl, Michonne, Daryl, Maggie, Rosita, Aaron, Eric, Sasha, Enid, Tara, Jesus, Gregory, Father Gabriel, Ezekiel, Morgan, Carol, Richard, Ben, Jerry, Simon, Tobin, “Garbage Pail Kids” (New junkyard group) and finally…Penis Tree.
Location: Hilltop, Kingdom, Highway, Alexandria, Woods
Highlights:
* Team Family has a meeting with Gregory about fighting the Saviors. He will most likely turn them down. Maggie’s potential leadership is looming.
* Jesus leads Rick, Carl, Michonne, Tara, Rosita, Sasha, and Daryl to the Kingdom to meet Ezekiel where Rick tries to convince them to join the war. Rick’s attempt fails and they leave. Daryl stays.
* Rick and Co. encounter a herd on the highway and also find explosives (likely the same ones seen in the promo pics). Should be an explosion in this scene.
* Father Gabriel encounters the mysterious “Boots” from episode 8. This is speculated to be new character Tamiel from the Garbage Pail Kids. We are supposed to find out her identity in a later episode. “Boots” is rumored to take Father G along with a bunch of Alexandria’s supplies back with her.
* Saviors, led by Simon, go to Alexandria, likely looking for Daryl.
* Rick, Michonne, Aaron, Tara, and Rosita go looking for Father G and encounter the new junkyard group (and the penis tree).
Episode 7.10
Characters: Rick, Michonne, Tara, Aaron, Rosita, Father Gabriel, Daryl, Carol, Morgan, Ezekiel, Morgan, Richard, Daniel, Jerry, Ben(?), Jadis, Brion, Tamiel, (NEW!) Garbage Pail Kids
Location: Kingdom, Carol’s Creepy House of Horrors, Junkyard
Highlights:
* Rick’s group goes back to the new group’s headquarters at a junkyard. Rick is forced to fight a crazy spiked walker in their junkyard fighting pit. This is supposed to be some kind of test to prove Team Family’s worth. Rick wins…
* Rick tries to make an alliance with their leader Jadis in order to help grow his army against the Saviors. By the end of their encounter a deal is made. Rick is asked to bring the GPK more guns in exchange for their assistance.
* Richard is still desperate to fight the Saviors. He devises a plan which involves leading the Saviors to Carol and baiting them into killing her. He thinks her death could encourage Zeke to agree to war. Daryl supposedly goes along with this plan until he learns Carol is the target. This is supposed to trigger a fight which can be seen briefly in the trailer for 7b.
* Daryl finds where Carol has been staying and visits her. The two share a hug or two and talk. Carol cooks for Daryl. We do not believe that Daryl tells her what happened with Glenn and Abe. He ends up leaving the house and goes back to the Kingdom.
* It’s rumored that Daryl makes “friends” with Shiva.
Episode 7.11
Characters: Negan, Dwight, Eugene, Dr. Emmett Carson, Negan’s harem, other Saviors
Location: The Sanctuary, Dwight’s former house(?)
Highlights:
* Most of the episode appears to take place at the Sanctuary.
* Eugene cooperates and is put to work for Negan. He supposedly gains status, which grants him access to some amenities. His experience at the Sanctuary should be much different than Daryl’s.
* Dwight visits a house, which belonged to him and Sherry before the ZA. We think something will happen here that might be the start of what will become Dwight's turncoat arc from the comics.
* It will be revealed who wrote the note and helped Daryl escape. (Sherry)
* It’s speculated that Dr. Emmett Carson (the Doc at the Sanctuary) will take the fall for Daryl’s escape and be killed.
Episode 7.12
Characters: Rick, Michonne, Tara, Father Gabriel, Rosita, Sasha, Judith, Garbage Pail Kids
Location: School (with carnival), Alexandria, Junkyard, Woods, Hilltop
Highlights:
* Rick and Michonne go scavenging for guns at a school which happens to also have a carnival set up there. Military trucks and tents were also at the filming location. Rick and Michonne will share some sexy times as well as moments of levity in this episode.
* Rick has a close call while fighting a large group of walkers and almost doesn’t make it out of alive.
* Rick, Michonne, Tara, Rosita, and Father Gabriel make a visit to the junkyard, presumably to turn over guns they scavenged as per their agreement.
* Rosita visits the Hilltop to enlist Sasha’s help with something.
Episode 7.13
Characters: Maggie, Daryl, Sasha, Eugene, Rosita, Negan, Simon, Jesus, Enid, Gregory, Dr. Harlan Carson, Saviors
Location: Hilltop, Sanctuary
Highlights:
* Sasha and Rosita apparently go rogue on a mission to the Sanctuary. Seems like they are on a suicide mission to take out Negan on their own.
* There’s a scene where Rosita and Sasha set a car on fire. Then later another scene where a few Saviors are herding walkers into storage containers, using water jugs to cover their heads. Rosita and Sasha take out these Saviors.
* Sasha makes it inside the Sanctuary while Rosita does not.
* There are rumors that Eugene gets an opportunity to be rescued but turns it down. What’s goin’ on there, Eugene?
* Saviors come to Hilltop and take Dr. Harlan Carson. Maggie and Daryl have to hide and are almost discovered.
* There's whispers that it will be revealed that Jesus is gay.
Episode 7.14
Characters: Carol, Ezekiel, Morgan, Ben, Richard, Jerry, Daniel, other Kingdom people
Location: Kingdom, Carol’s house, other outside areas
Highlights:
* According to information listed in casting calls and other rumors that have surfaced, both Richard and Ben die in this episode.
* At this time, we think Ben’s death will be caused by some shady dealings from Richard during a supply drop. We’ll call it “melon-gate.” It’s believed that he will stir up a conflict between the Saviors and the Kingdomers as another attempt to get Ezekiel to fight back. But Ben will end up paying the price with his life.
* Morgan was seen dragging Richard’s body. We believe Ben’s death will trigger Morgan to regress back into “crazy mode” and he will kill Richard as a result. His life wasn’t all that precious, was it Morgan?
* It's speculated that Morgan will go back to Carol and eventually tell her what happened to Glenn and Abe. Carol filmed at the Kingdom, so it appears she goes back to encourage Zeke to fight.
Episode 7.15
Characters: Rick, Michonne, Carl, Tara, Father Gabriel, Jesus, Daryl, Maggie, Aaron, Negan, Sasha, Gregory, Tobin, Eric, Natania, Cyndie, Rachel, Beatriz, Kathy
Location: Sanctuary, Hilltop, Oceanside
Highlights:
* Tara ends up breaking her promise to Cyndie and tells Rick about their group. They travel to Oceanside along with a large group of Alexandrians.
* Since they brought such a large group to Oceanside, it seems that their initial meetings might not be entirely peaceful. We suspect there will be conflicts and the Oceanside women might not agree to fight. However, Team Family does appear to get a hold of their weapons.
* Supposed to be some really cool ocean walkers in this episode.
* Sasha will become Negan's prisoner. Very possible we could see a remix of that comic Holly scene where a Savior makes an aggressive advance on Sasha. Probably won't end well for that Savior.
Episode 7.16
Characters: Rick, Michonne, Carl, Daryl, Maggie, Sasha, Rosita, Tara, Negan, Eugene, Jesus, Dwight, Simon, Father Gabriel, Aaron, Eric, Enid, Carol, Morgan, Judith, Ezekiel, Scott, Tobin, Jadis, Tamiel, Brion, Jerry, Daniel, Dianne, Eduardo, GPK, Saviors
Location: Sanctuary, Hilltop, Alexandria
Highlights:
* Negan catches word about Rick gathering an army and heads to ASZ with his Savior troops. Sasha and Eugene are also with him. From what we have heard, Sasha does not arrive alive.
* There's rumors that Michael Cudlitz came back to film for the finale. Most likely a flashback/ dream sequence involving Sasha's death.
* The Garbage Pail Kids are also at ASZ and filming reports suggest that they do fire at Team Family. Looks like they double crossed our heroes and fight alongside Negan.
* Episode is basically a chaotic battle, LOTS of gunfire, smoke, and possible explosions.
* Rick and Rosita are supposedly shot. Injuries do not seem serious.
* Eugene tells Team Family they should surrender. Appears to be siding with the Saviors. (Come on, man!)
* Whispers of a possible remix of the second line up scene from the comics. We are hearing it will be much smaller and might only involve Rick and Carl. Negan might attempt to Lucille Carl, only to be saved by the Kingdomers (Shiva!!!) at the last second. Hilltoppers eventually join in on the fun when they arrive a little later.
*Michonne filmed on a large crane during the finale. This appears to be a remix of the Andrea tower scene from the comics, only it will involve Michonne and a member of the GPK.
* Saviors and GPK were both witnessed retreating during filming. The battle has been won and war has officially begun! Reports of speeches, chanting, and cheering during filming. Looks like the end of the episode will be everyone (ASZ, Hilltop, Kingdom) rallying together, ready for all out war.
The following is a breakdown of the episodes in 7b. This is a compilation of filming info and educated speculation that we have gathered throughout the season. It does not cover everything that happens in each episode. While we believe most of this information is accurate, please note that anything can change by the time the episodes air.
Huge thanks goes to the sources that helped us with info this season!!! You are the BEST!!! As a friendly reminder, absolutely DO NOT share information from this breakdown on nonspoiler sites. If you are caught, you will be booted with no one exceptions. If you choose to share this with other spoiler sites please make sure you are giving proper credit.
Episode 7.9
Characters: Rick, Carl, Michonne, Daryl, Maggie, Rosita, Aaron, Eric, Sasha, Enid, Tara, Jesus, Gregory, Father Gabriel, Ezekiel, Morgan, Carol, Richard, Ben, Jerry, Simon, Tobin, “Garbage Pail Kids” (New junkyard group) and finally…Penis Tree.
Location: Hilltop, Kingdom, Highway, Alexandria, Woods
Highlights:
* Team Family has a meeting with Gregory about fighting the Saviors. He will most likely turn them down. Maggie’s potential leadership is looming.
* Jesus leads Rick, Carl, Michonne, Tara, Rosita, Sasha, and Daryl to the Kingdom to meet Ezekiel where Rick tries to convince them to join the war. Rick’s attempt fails and they leave. Daryl stays.
* Rick and Co. encounter a herd on the highway and also find explosives (likely the same ones seen in the promo pics). Should be an explosion in this scene.
* Father Gabriel encounters the mysterious “Boots” from episode 8. This is speculated to be new character Tamiel from the Garbage Pail Kids. We are supposed to find out her identity in a later episode. “Boots” is rumored to take Father G along with a bunch of Alexandria’s supplies back with her.
* Saviors, led by Simon, go to Alexandria, likely looking for Daryl.
* Rick, Michonne, Aaron, Tara, and Rosita go looking for Father G and encounter the new junkyard group (and the penis tree).
Episode 7.10
Characters: Rick, Michonne, Tara, Aaron, Rosita, Father Gabriel, Daryl, Carol, Morgan, Ezekiel, Morgan, Richard, Daniel, Jerry, Ben(?), Jadis, Brion, Tamiel, (NEW!) Garbage Pail Kids
Location: Kingdom, Carol’s Creepy House of Horrors, Junkyard
Highlights:
* Rick’s group goes back to the new group’s headquarters at a junkyard. Rick is forced to fight a crazy spiked walker in their junkyard fighting pit. This is supposed to be some kind of test to prove Team Family’s worth. Rick wins…
* Rick tries to make an alliance with their leader Jadis in order to help grow his army against the Saviors. By the end of their encounter a deal is made. Rick is asked to bring the GPK more guns in exchange for their assistance.
* Richard is still desperate to fight the Saviors. He devises a plan which involves leading the Saviors to Carol and baiting them into killing her. He thinks her death could encourage Zeke to agree to war. Daryl supposedly goes along with this plan until he learns Carol is the target. This is supposed to trigger a fight which can be seen briefly in the trailer for 7b.
* Daryl finds where Carol has been staying and visits her. The two share a hug or two and talk. Carol cooks for Daryl. We do not believe that Daryl tells her what happened with Glenn and Abe. He ends up leaving the house and goes back to the Kingdom.
* It’s rumored that Daryl makes “friends” with Shiva.
Episode 7.11
Characters: Negan, Dwight, Eugene, Dr. Emmett Carson, Negan’s harem, other Saviors
Location: The Sanctuary, Dwight’s former house(?)
Highlights:
* Most of the episode appears to take place at the Sanctuary.
* Eugene cooperates and is put to work for Negan. He supposedly gains status, which grants him access to some amenities. His experience at the Sanctuary should be much different than Daryl’s.
* Dwight visits a house, which belonged to him and Sherry before the ZA. We think something will happen here that might be the start of what will become Dwight's turncoat arc from the comics.
* It will be revealed who wrote the note and helped Daryl escape. (Sherry)
* It’s speculated that Dr. Emmett Carson (the Doc at the Sanctuary) will take the fall for Daryl’s escape and be killed.
Episode 7.12
Characters: Rick, Michonne, Tara, Father Gabriel, Rosita, Sasha, Judith, Garbage Pail Kids
Location: School (with carnival), Alexandria, Junkyard, Woods, Hilltop
Highlights:
* Rick and Michonne go scavenging for guns at a school which happens to also have a carnival set up there. Military trucks and tents were also at the filming location. Rick and Michonne will share some sexy times as well as moments of levity in this episode.
* Rick has a close call while fighting a large group of walkers and almost doesn’t make it out of alive.
* Rick, Michonne, Tara, Rosita, and Father Gabriel make a visit to the junkyard, presumably to turn over guns they scavenged as per their agreement.
* Rosita visits the Hilltop to enlist Sasha’s help with something.
Episode 7.13
Characters: Maggie, Daryl, Sasha, Eugene, Rosita, Negan, Simon, Jesus, Enid, Gregory, Dr. Harlan Carson, Saviors
Location: Hilltop, Sanctuary
Highlights:
* Sasha and Rosita apparently go rogue on a mission to the Sanctuary. Seems like they are on a suicide mission to take out Negan on their own.
* There’s a scene where Rosita and Sasha set a car on fire. Then later another scene where a few Saviors are herding walkers into storage containers, using water jugs to cover their heads. Rosita and Sasha take out these Saviors.
* Sasha makes it inside the Sanctuary while Rosita does not.
* There are rumors that Eugene gets an opportunity to be rescued but turns it down. What’s goin’ on there, Eugene?
* Saviors come to Hilltop and take Dr. Harlan Carson. Maggie and Daryl have to hide and are almost discovered.
* There's whispers that it will be revealed that Jesus is gay.
Episode 7.14
Characters: Carol, Ezekiel, Morgan, Ben, Richard, Jerry, Daniel, other Kingdom people
Location: Kingdom, Carol’s house, other outside areas
Highlights:
* According to information listed in casting calls and other rumors that have surfaced, both Richard and Ben die in this episode.
* At this time, we think Ben’s death will be caused by some shady dealings from Richard during a supply drop. We’ll call it “melon-gate.” It’s believed that he will stir up a conflict between the Saviors and the Kingdomers as another attempt to get Ezekiel to fight back. But Ben will end up paying the price with his life.
* Morgan was seen dragging Richard’s body. We believe Ben’s death will trigger Morgan to regress back into “crazy mode” and he will kill Richard as a result. His life wasn’t all that precious, was it Morgan?
* It's speculated that Morgan will go back to Carol and eventually tell her what happened to Glenn and Abe. Carol filmed at the Kingdom, so it appears she goes back to encourage Zeke to fight.
Episode 7.15
Characters: Rick, Michonne, Carl, Tara, Father Gabriel, Jesus, Daryl, Maggie, Aaron, Negan, Sasha, Gregory, Tobin, Eric, Natania, Cyndie, Rachel, Beatriz, Kathy
Location: Sanctuary, Hilltop, Oceanside
Highlights:
* Tara ends up breaking her promise to Cyndie and tells Rick about their group. They travel to Oceanside along with a large group of Alexandrians.
* Since they brought such a large group to Oceanside, it seems that their initial meetings might not be entirely peaceful. We suspect there will be conflicts and the Oceanside women might not agree to fight. However, Team Family does appear to get a hold of their weapons.
* Supposed to be some really cool ocean walkers in this episode.
* Sasha will become Negan's prisoner. Very possible we could see a remix of that comic Holly scene where a Savior makes an aggressive advance on Sasha. Probably won't end well for that Savior.
Episode 7.16
Characters: Rick, Michonne, Carl, Daryl, Maggie, Sasha, Rosita, Tara, Negan, Eugene, Jesus, Dwight, Simon, Father Gabriel, Aaron, Eric, Enid, Carol, Morgan, Judith, Ezekiel, Scott, Tobin, Jadis, Tamiel, Brion, Jerry, Daniel, Dianne, Eduardo, GPK, Saviors
Location: Sanctuary, Hilltop, Alexandria
Highlights:
* Negan catches word about Rick gathering an army and heads to ASZ with his Savior troops. Sasha and Eugene are also with him. From what we have heard, Sasha does not arrive alive.
* There's rumors that Michael Cudlitz came back to film for the finale. Most likely a flashback/ dream sequence involving Sasha's death.
* The Garbage Pail Kids are also at ASZ and filming reports suggest that they do fire at Team Family. Looks like they double crossed our heroes and fight alongside Negan.
* Episode is basically a chaotic battle, LOTS of gunfire, smoke, and possible explosions.
* Rick and Rosita are supposedly shot. Injuries do not seem serious.
* Eugene tells Team Family they should surrender. Appears to be siding with the Saviors. (Come on, man!)
* Whispers of a possible remix of the second line up scene from the comics. We are hearing it will be much smaller and might only involve Rick and Carl. Negan might attempt to Lucille Carl, only to be saved by the Kingdomers (Shiva!!!) at the last second. Hilltoppers eventually join in on the fun when they arrive a little later.
*Michonne filmed on a large crane during the finale. This appears to be a remix of the Andrea tower scene from the comics, only it will involve Michonne and a member of the GPK.
* Saviors and GPK were both witnessed retreating during filming. The battle has been won and war has officially begun! Reports of speeches, chanting, and cheering during filming. Looks like the end of the episode will be everyone (ASZ, Hilltop, Kingdom) rallying together, ready for all out war.
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Yep the original show runner really just took the basic framework of the comics and was trying to develop an entirely different story for TV. Personally that's what got me hooked. I actually liked that style and thinking a whole lot more than what we got now. Yeah the second season really dragged, but it was partly due to the show runner (Darabont) leaving, and the fact that they only wanted to do 8 episode seasons and AMC forced them to do nearly double that with the same budget, so it turned into entire episodes of Rick saying I am a man, Lori I'm a man aren't I? And Shane saying no he was really a man, and Lori saying they both were. This show absolutely would be 100 times better if they would scale back the seasons 3 or 4 episodes, or just do two 8 episode seasons each year. The pacing is just impossible to nail with 16 episodes to tell a story that 8-10 episodes can.
With all of that said, I've been liking the show a little bit more over the last few episodes, and I think this second half is showing promise. However, they always do the book ends of each half fairly well, now I just have to see if the pace continues into the next few episodes, or if it will slow down again.
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they add more episodes because people want more, or they did until this season. it also helps them financially because this is AMC's biggest show and its really their only successful original show ever. Mad Men, BB and BCS are made by Sony. they gotta have more episodes to keep the lights on.
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And yet the most consistent complaint I have seen has been the pacing of this show and how all the filler sucks. And honestly, I think this season just had too many strikes. The torture porn of the first episode turned a few people off, and the terrible pacing chased away even more. The ratings were huge for the premiere but dropped off even more than normal. Hopefully that wakes AMC up and they figure out how to pace this show without putting in too much filler episodes. Advance the plot, and if you need an extra episode, come up with a clever speed bump that side tracks the group from their mission.
I agree with this. The in your face persona of Negan is great for one or two episodes, but after that it is just too much. His side kick who played Trevor in GTA has been a better Negan in that regards than JDM is. JDM is 90 miles an hour while standing still and it just kind of grated on me after the first couple of episodes featuring Negan.
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If you freshly painted the wall beside your television and put this show on, your eyes would quickly drift towards the wall.
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the pacing is intentional due to budget. they really cant afford action packed stuff every week or every other week or every other other week. we get one showcase scene per episode with a few mini showcases here and there. its really not much different than the average TV show, maybe it seems longer because the commercials are endless and the show goes over an hour in order to show them all.