Thor: Love and Thunder (2021)

Cybsled said:

but the Evangelical sect of it that has been injecting itself into politics.

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The influence religion has on politics right now is probably the lowest it has been in US history.

Isn't there a story about some Christian priest abusing underage boys, like every week?

Basically, 12 year old boys are to Christians what goats are to Muslims at this point.

Gavinmad said:

The influence religion has on politics right now is probably the lowest it has been in US history.

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Depends on how you classify that. I would agree that in a general sense, if you looked at the overall % of population where that was a strong influence, then that would be more the case in the past when the country was more religious as a whole. JFK had the whole issue where people thought that because he was Catholic, he would be taking orders from the Pope or some shit. But even now, it would still be unusual if a presidential candidate was an open atheist or some other non-christian religion.

But ever since the successful Southern Push strategy of the late 70s/early 80s that began to work hard to entice the much more conservative and religious voters of that region, politics on the right has become so intertwined with that region and religion that it is harder to tell where one stops and the other begins. A lot of the Evangelical elements that push things also do so much more subtlety now - the whole Mastercard anti-porn stance is pretty much influenced by that, for example.

Anyways, getting back on track since this started with Pratt, I do wonder how much GoTG will actually be in this. The trailer gives me the feeling that it will probably be like the first 10 minutes, then Thor goes off on his own/with Korgg

Zweischneid said:

Isn't there a story about some Christian priest abusing underage boys, like every week?

Basically, 12 year old boys are to Christians what goats are to Muslims at this point.

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christians don't have priests. you're thinking catholics. and the catholic church has some serious issues, not to say that other denominations/religions don't, just that the catholic church probably has more of them. also, to be fair, i know plenty of catholics who are great people. don't conflate the people with the institution

Rajaah said:

Yeah, the new Marvel movies feel like DC movies. They're all just sorta doing their own thing and there's no overarching story going on. This is probably DC's time to strike, honestly, but first they have to get their heads out of their asses. Supposedly DC is looking for a universe-runner to retool the DCCU and give it a vision/timeline, AKA what they should have done seven years ago. So I'm cautiously optimistic that DC will get their act together and present Marvel with a real competition over this next decade, especially considering how weak Phase 4 is (or is it Phase 5 now? Hell if I know).



She's pretty fucking hot in this shot. I'm not even attracted to modern Portman either under normal circumstances either.

Not sure how keen I am on Jane "inexplicably" being able to wield the hammer, which strikes me as "we don't know why this is happening so just roll with it". I also hope this doesn't mean they're phasing out regular Thor.

I expect this movie to be full of Female Thor doing everything Thor does, only better, while being way smarter and more competent.

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that was the general consensus when jane was thor in the comics. people were worried it was going to be super girl power-y and thor would play second fiddle to her, but that's not really what happened.

my assumption on what's happening is that thor goes off exploring the galaxy as a pacifist, all the while Gorr is going around killing gods left and right. for some reason jane goes to visit new asgard and sees the remnants of mjolnir. i'm wondering if, even though it's been shattered people still can't pick it up without being worthy. mjolnir decides that jane is worthy and she's able to pick it up and become thor because the hammer knows there needs to be a thor to defend the 9 realms and the real thor is definitely not in the 9 realms, basically absconding his responsibilities.

in the comics, jane has cancer. when she's thor it makes her immune to cancer, but when she shifts back to jane she gets significantly worse so we all knew from the beginning that she had a shelf life. i'm assuming it'll be something similar, that she's no longer thor by the time the credits roll, but who knows

j00t said:

christians don't have priests. you're thinking catholics. and the catholic church has some serious issues, not to say that other denominations/religions don't, just that the catholic church probably has more of them. also, to be fair, i know plenty of catholics who are great people. don't conflate the people with the institution

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So Catholics aren't Christians? They are not doing the Jesus thing? Is that like the Sunni/Shia thing with Muslims, where they hate each other, despite having the same prophet?

Zweischneid said:

So Catholics aren't Christians? They are not doing the Jesus thing? Is that like the Sunni/Shia thing with Muslims, where they hate each other, despite having the same prophet?

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think of it this way. all catholics are christian. not all christians are catholics. they don't even have the same bible.

I thought I clicked on the Thor thread....

Cybsled said:

but the Evangelical sect of it that has been injecting itself into politics.

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Yeah I sure never hear the Pope make any statements on political matters. Only those awful " " " Evangelicals " " "

Cybsled said:

I only give a fuck when they try to force their millennia old doctrines on everyone through government and manipulation of business.

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Yeah, when I think of insidious doctrines being forced on everyone through government and manipulation of business, it's totally Christianity that comes to mind these days.