True Detective

Season one was pretty obvious with the baddy, no one believed it because it was to obvious

Homsar_sl said:

Season one was pretty obvious with the baddy, no one believed it because it was to obvious

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Agred. I think that's why I enjoyed Season 1 more than some people I know. I watched it as a great crime drama with a mysterious setting, but ultimately a pretty straightforward story. Which is why the ending wasn't a huge letdown for me. Of course, the people who watched as if it were Lost weren't so lucky?

I think ultimately season 2 is going to be similar. It's going to be a pretty basic, straightforward story. It'll be the thing that makes the most sense with the evidence presented, just like season 1, despite all the crow pictures and fetishes. If they don't do that, then everyone will be pissed and feel like their time was wasted... kinda like how the people watching S1 felt when they thought they were watching something with actual voodoo magic instead of the very well crafted but ultimately simple story of season 1.

It makes me wonder if the show would be better if VV and Kitsch had their roles swapped. VV just doesn't come off as any sort of badass no matter how many close up serious faces they use. Like I said last episode, the show suffers from too many characters.

It should focus more on the detectives and VV should be more marginalized. I don't need to know when the local crime boss can't get his dick up. I don't care if he and his wife are having problems conceiving. I don't need a trio of blank 5 second stares from him every episode. If they wanted to show a crime figure carrying on his own ad hoc investigation, then NP should have just followed 2 main detectives on the team and cast a better actor in VV's role.

Homsar_sl said:

Season one was pretty obvious with the baddy, no one believed it because it was to obvious

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Oh yah, it was pretty obviously that guy on the lawn mower for one scene.

There was a crude children's drawing for christ's sake!

When I saw the lawn mowing guy I thought he was a little weird but certainly didn't think he was the killer until they showed him again in the 2nd to last (I think?) episode.

Soygen_sl said:

It was obvious, once Rust time-traveled through Carcosa and left his dad's keys behind the sign, so he could spring all the historical figures from the jail cell. Wait...fuck.

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I thought it was his daughter's teletubbie?

Maybe Daddario's titties distracted us too much from seeing who the killer was so early. Only a hermaphrodite could get it.

The lack of equivalent boobage is to be expected since Daddario is basically a 10, but they could at least be making an effort.

The Ancient_sl said:

Oh yah, it was pretty obviously that guy on the lawn mower for one scene.

There was a crude children's drawing for christ's sake!

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Right whe the drawing was shown people were talking about how stupid that would be and no way it would be that obvious. Also the drawing of the yellow tie was real. And lawnmower man was credited to come back in the final episode and people still wouldnt believe it was him. Instead people thought woody was the rapist killer because of a spiral drawing on his wall

It's Vince Vaughn's right hand guy.

Homsar_sl said:

Right whe the drawing was shown people were talking about how stupid that would be and no way it would be that obvious. Also the drawing of the yellow tie was real. And lawnmower man was credited to come back in the final episode and people still wouldnt believe it was him. Instead people thought woody was the rapist killer because of a spiral drawing on his wall

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They might have thought the theory was stupid, but they weren't arguing that because it was "too obvious".

I really enjoy TV shows where it shows an atmosphere and setting that is interesting but completely unrelatable to me. The Wire is something I have zero experience with and it was fascinating. I don't know much about the "true south" and Justified was fucking amazing. Mad Men is bananas. Breaking Bad was awesome because it was a "there but by the grace of god" kind of alternate life story that I could empathize with.

I didn't really care who did it in s1 of True Detective, the whole atmosphere of bayou Louisiana, the weird religious stuff of voodoo Christians mixing with scary ass Deliverance style rednecks was awesome. MattM's acting on top of it was the cherry that turned it from a 9/10 to a 20/10. Daddario titties cranked that up to a 25/10.

I don't give a shit about the life and times of people living near LA, there is absolutely nothing of interest or voyeuristic about watching the lifestyle portrayed so far in True Detective. Oh snap, rich powerful people have a lot of parties and weird sex, that is a real shocker. Cops are corrupt, oh noes. The only really interesting thing so far is the hippy dad of antigone, in a "man I hope this isn't super predictable" way. I'll watch the rest of the season for sure and hope it gets better, but its not really feeling like noir nor lynch-ian, it just feels like an HBOized version of CSI.

I like that it doesn't have to be out in the boonies to be a story he wants to tell. Yea, we've seen a lot of metro east/west coast cops over the years, but I don't want it to always be somewhere weird like Fargo or w/e. That is itself a kind of predictability I'd be annoyed by.

And Justified is cheating. Modern communication tech has eroded southern culture a lot, but those appalachian communities have always been reached last. The south is fading away as a cultural hearth, but stereotypes are going to be profited off of for years to come.

Yeah, I thought this season was supposed to take place in Riverside or San Bernardino counties. I think the desert setting would have been far more interesting.