War with Syria

Lleauaric_sl said:

Your point was unclear because it was totally unrelated to mine.

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Actually, it was a clear rebuttal to your statement that just because someone says something is Unconstitutional doesn't mean it is.

You have incomplete information.

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How so? Your link does not deny that the rebels sacked that base, and that they've sacked others and looted who knows what chemicals.

Further your link says this:

In the fight for the Sheik Suleiman base,as the rebels seized key sectors of the facility, which is home to the 111th Regiment, including its command center, the Observatorysaid.

About 140 Syrian troops fled to another, nearby base as the rebels advanced, Abdul-Rahman said, adding that opposition fighters captured seven government troops and killed two soldiers in the fighting.

Amateur videos released by activists showed gunmen walking inside the base, carrying a militant black Islamic flag.

The footage also showed rebels driving around in a captured tank and manning heavy anti-aircraft machine guns. The activist videos appear genuine and correspond to AP's reporting on the events depicted.

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Oh look at that, your own citation supporting my point. That must make you so angsty.

Maybe you suppose they forgot them? Or maybe.... Just maybe the Syrian left them there ON PURPOSEFUL because they then knew the rebels would only use them on themselves and the syrians knew they could get away with gassing the rebels.. BY NOT GASSING THEM..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw

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Tuco really did have it right. You should think more and post less. This is just retarded strawman garbage.

\I also enjoyed how you decided to exercise editorial prudence and call the base, where they only confirmed testing chemical weapons at some point, a depot. They have other places that have been clearly identified as chemical weapons storage facilities. But you can just make shit up to support your point I guess. Interesting.

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You seem to be missing the point: Rebels have been sacking and looting Syrian military bases for two years as the ebb and flow of battle has occurred, and Assad hasn't had control of vast swaths of the country for periods of time, while the US has reported already in that same article I cited that they cannot ascertain for certain where all Assads chemical weapons are.

Its sad that you feel that needing some sort of evidence to back up your conspiracy theory is stupid, but whatever.. 9/11 Truth!

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Retarded strawman fallacy 2

Then why do the Germans have intercepted communication from the Syrian army begging to use them? I though they had no reason to.... You think the Germans are in on the conspiracy?

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Half of Europe and the US are pushing for war in Syria and you have to ask why Germany might want to produce "evidence" proving "Syrians begged to use chemical weapons."

Note the distinct lack of any evidence that they were given orders to use those weapons in your own source. Wonder why that is?

Because they're winning.

You don't use chemical weapons that can potentially draw the world's ire down on your head when you're already winning your Civil War.

But you know who does use chemical weapons to win a battle?

The same people that execute captive regime soldiers and take bites out of the hearts of their enemies. If this forum wasn't NSFW I'd post you up some photos I've got of what the rebels are doing but instead I'll just post some links instead

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ervention.html
http://www.policymic.com/articles/41...opaganda-video

Here's a report about a rebel held area banning croissants through fatwa



You want some more? I can keep making you look like a fucking retard if you'd like.

Trollface_sl said:

jews learned from the best.

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They Jews really jumped the shark when they started emulating Hitler.

A Sometimes mentioned goal for israel referred to by people like David Ben guerien is "greater israel" which has an odd similiarity to "greater germany" "Gro?deutschland"

hodj_sl said:

Note the distinct lack of any evidence that they were given orders to use those weapons in your own source. Wonder why that it?

Because they're winning.

You don't use chemical weapons that can potentially draw the world's ire down on your head when you're already winning your Civil War.

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Not to mention a large reason why Assad is winning is because he has the backing of most of the syrian population, they don't like foreigners coming into syria killing syrians.

Most Syrians back President Assad, but you'd never know from western media

Nah they mainly got their homeland back because after the Holocaust they didn't want to return to Europe and America didn't want them.

They all moved to Palestina and declared that was their new homes and the West said "Sounds alright by us!"

Iannis_sl said:

In retrospect, maybe that was a mistaken assumption.

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You know how when a child is raised in a house of violence he is often prone to seeing violence as a means for solutions? well the holocaust.

hodj_sl said:

Nah they mainly got their homeland back because after the Holocaust they didn't want to return to Europe and America didn't want them.

They all moved to Palestina and declared that was their new homes and the West said "Sounds alright by us!"

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Balfour declaration(and look who the letter was addressed to) was world war one, Israel was 2 world wars in the making, not just one.

Trollface_sl said:

Hitler was right?



pretty much. West didn't want to give their own land. America didn't either. Zionists proposed the homeland. Palestine (name of the region...not a nation) was a perfect choice.

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At the time, the region was populated but not like...not like today by any stretch. And the thing was, that it was part of the British Mandate post WW1 because the Ottoman Empire collapsed and Kemal Ataturk was busy divesting Turkey of territories it could no longer control (much like Rome at the end, Soviet Union at the end, etc.) so when they moved there, there wasn't any real government per se, just the British Mandate, and Islamic Shariah law, basically. The Jizya was no longer enforced with the decline of the Caliphate so...yeah.

I mean at the time they went there, there weren't a lot of other options.

fanaskin_sl said:

Balfour declaration(and look who the letter was addressed to) was world war one, Israel was 2 world wars in the making, not just one.

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Zionism actually started in like the 1860s if we wanna be technical, but didn't reach critical mass of Jewish immigrants moving in until the time period between WW1 and WW2 and then the Holocaust had its impact, but yeah. I was speaking more in common parlance than absolute historical measurements.

Araysar_sl said:

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Was thinking about posting a link to the wikipedia article on that, but let's get recent.

Israel is often cited as one of the nations America is most worried about spying in our country, for instance.

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affa...-spying-threat

The Obama administration views Israel as one of the top spying threats facing its intelligence services, leaked documents reveal.
A secret budget request obtained by The Washington Post from former NSA contractor Edward Snowden lumps Israel alongside U.S. foes Iran and Cuba as "key targets" for U.S. counterintelligence efforts. The document suggests Israel does not believe U.S. assurances that its interests are aligned with Israel's on crucial issues such as Iran and peace talks with the Palestinians.
"To further safeguard our classified networks, we continue to strengthen insider threat detection capabilities across the Community," reads the FY 2013 congressional budget justification for intelligence programs. "In addition, we are investing in target surveillance and offensive CI [counterintelligence] against key targets, such as China, Russia, Iran, Israel, Pakistan and Cuba."

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They also spied on us in the past and sold our weapons plans to China

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/13/wo...a-us-says.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard

I am fine with Israel removing kebab when necessary but they aren't our bros like some people think. Its a mutually beneficial relationship until Israel causes us to get into WW3, then it won't be anymore.