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Himeo
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Two-thirds of his total intake came from junk food. He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily. And he ate vegetables, typically a can of green beans or three to four celery stalks.
Watch the video I posted. From a macro perspective, his breakdown was close to the ornish diet, albiet with far less fiber.
Watch the video I posted. From a macro perspective, his breakdown was close to the ornish diet, albiet with far less fiber.
It's down 230 lbs. since 2011.
12 lbs. down since I started my latest effort (I started this push at 232).
And my sugar consumption was minimally impacted.
I started IF a few days ago and I started EC stack today. Took 12.5mg E + 100mg C to test and barely felt anything besides when it first kicked in. Idk which I was feeling more because I dont drink coffee or caffeinated drinks typically. So I took another 12.5 E and 100 C 4 hours later and still felt fine. Gonna bump up to 3 doses tomorrow. I like IF a lot because Id usually force down breakfast under the impression it was important I needed to. I really dont have an issue making it till 2pm before eating. I feel like a drink wayyyy more water cause Im using it to suppress my appetite all morning and it feels a lot easier tracking my calories too. Fuckin last night due to being busy and running around I ended up having to eat 1200cal within the last 45min of my eating window. That alone makes it worth it to me regardless if training while in a "fasted" state helps at all. But tomorrow will be my first time Im able to get in the gym while in a "fasted" state and on EC so Im sorta excited.
Plus Im not eating sugar so..
Plus Im not eating sugar so..
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Holy fucking shit is this thread even real life anymore I had to check if Lumie was posting here
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The irony of someone who calls himself "The Master" linking to Daily Hate Mail articles - the website is basically a more racist version of the National Enquirer
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Restricting carbs is necessary for someone overweight (20% bf+), as this will improve their insulin sensitivity. Once they get leaner (e.g closer to 15% bf) then you can reintroduce carbs by carb cycling (higher carbs on weightlifting days, lower carbs on rest days). This is optimal for fat loss and muscle gain.
Once someone is leaner, there is simply no reason to restrict carbs.
This was exactly the model I used to drop from 23% body fat to sub 10%.
As someone has told you before, - you've lost a lot of weight by restricting carbs - congratulations. However, carbs are not the devil and you could easily get away with reintroducing some carbs as long as you still make sure to maintain a calorie deficit. Even at 8-10% bf I never drink soda, eat pasta or bread, but there's no reason to neglect all forms of vegetable or whole fruits.
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The way I see it:
Our bodies and the systems for energy consumption, storage and utilisation were designed when we were still hunters and foragers. We ran around and tried to eat as much as possible. Since you couldn't store food well for longer periods of time, you ate what you caught on a more or less day-to-day basis.
Carbs fill up our glycogen stores. As anyone who's gone keto while lifting can tell, your overall strength doesn't drop - but the number of reps drops drastically. Without carbs, easily accessible fuel (glycogen stored in the muscles) goes way down.
To a cave man, having fuel readily loaded in the muscles increased survivability. Having to wait for fat burning to fuel the body decreased survivability.
To get to my point - at last: Humans seek out sugar. This type of carbs taste good (and that's a result of evolution; we crave what increases survivability for our genes (cat's can't taste the sweetness
, and they serve a function: To enable us to exert power over time.
Grob, who had just eaten a tub of honey, could run farther than Brob, who had just eaten some eggs.
These days, this evolutionary pressure is no longer present. But our tastebuds have not adjusted, and they keep telling us to fill up on sugar and carbs - that we don't burn off, and so the body metabolism never gets around to burning fat. So it keeps accumulating.
But as Ossoi writes. When your BF is already low, and you keep active to burn off carbs, eating carbs is beneficial: It fuels longer, more effective work outs.
Our bodies and the systems for energy consumption, storage and utilisation were designed when we were still hunters and foragers. We ran around and tried to eat as much as possible. Since you couldn't store food well for longer periods of time, you ate what you caught on a more or less day-to-day basis.
Carbs fill up our glycogen stores. As anyone who's gone keto while lifting can tell, your overall strength doesn't drop - but the number of reps drops drastically. Without carbs, easily accessible fuel (glycogen stored in the muscles) goes way down.
To a cave man, having fuel readily loaded in the muscles increased survivability. Having to wait for fat burning to fuel the body decreased survivability.
To get to my point - at last: Humans seek out sugar. This type of carbs taste good (and that's a result of evolution; we crave what increases survivability for our genes (cat's can't taste the sweetness
, and they serve a function: To enable us to exert power over time.Grob, who had just eaten a tub of honey, could run farther than Brob, who had just eaten some eggs.
These days, this evolutionary pressure is no longer present. But our tastebuds have not adjusted, and they keep telling us to fill up on sugar and carbs - that we don't burn off, and so the body metabolism never gets around to burning fat. So it keeps accumulating.
But as Ossoi writes. When your BF is already low, and you keep active to burn off carbs, eating carbs is beneficial: It fuels longer, more effective work outs.
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IIRC Himeo was the dude who used to drink the garlic containers that came with Papa John's pizza. Unless I'm thinking of another morbidly obese board member
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That be him. Luckily, he can still have it:
Calories in Papa John's - Garlic Dipping Sauce | Nutrition and Health Facts
Calories in Papa John's - Garlic Dipping Sauce | Nutrition and Health Facts
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Every reasonably intelligent person I know would agree that crushing a large Papa John's pizza then guzzling down garlic-flavored oil afterwards is unhealthy and would lead to weight gain. You weren't lied to; you got fat as fuck and don't want any personal responsibility, now you're atoning for it. I could bring 10 random people in from across the world and let them gaze at your daily intake through your weight gain period and how many of them would say "oh this is fine, yea, gotta hit those pizza and oil macros".
Abstaining from carbs is one way to deal with a problem (massive caloric intake). Just like alcoholics abstain from alcohol. That isn't the desired end-state for a person values self-discipline and strength; many people (myself included) drank too much in our early 20s but don't flat out abstain now, we're just careful about our alcohol intake now.
I'm from 245 to 195, still eat a fuckton of sugar. Had a energy drink this morning and jelly on toast, would I have lost more than 50 lbs or lost it faster had I restricted carbs more, most certainly, but is it poison? No. Is it possible to eat super sugary foods and still lose weight? Yes.
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Himeo. You are the textbook definition of a zealot. You act like your way is the only way.
As someone who worked for Atkins Nutritionals, knew Dr. Atkins personally, and lost 100lbs on the Atkins diet (i.e. someone who believes strongly in low carb lifestyles), I can tell you, you are making yourself look foolish.
As someone who worked for Atkins Nutritionals, knew Dr. Atkins personally, and lost 100lbs on the Atkins diet (i.e. someone who believes strongly in low carb lifestyles), I can tell you, you are making yourself look foolish.
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Eidal, you ignore the many many times I tried and failed to diet before with the Calories In Calories Out dogma. Shit never worked for me.
That's like saying, well gee when you weren't trying to lose weight your diet was bad. No shit? How about when I tried to lose weight, over and over, using a plan designed to fail for people like me? When doctors said, "Well looks like you're too much of a fat lazy fuck for a diet. Guess the only option now is to cut you open and put a clamp around your stomach to keep you from stuffing yourself to death."
I found a diet that works. I'll continue to spread the word so other fat fucks know what's up.
That's like saying, well gee when you weren't trying to lose weight your diet was bad. No shit? How about when I tried to lose weight, over and over, using a plan designed to fail for people like me? When doctors said, "Well looks like you're too much of a fat lazy fuck for a diet. Guess the only option now is to cut you open and put a clamp around your stomach to keep you from stuffing yourself to death."
I found a diet that works. I'll continue to spread the word so other fat fucks know what's up.