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Gurgeh said:
If widespread use of Ozempic decrease use of sleeping pills and antidepressant, I'll admit I'm wrong and that Ozempic is clearly a net benefit for society. But what I fear, is that it's not going to fix the underlying issue as you say, and that for 10-20% of the population it's just going to add yet another pill in their daily routine, to make their life slightly more bearable, like antidepressant and sleeping pills and desincentive people to get to the root of the problem and fix all their issues.

That being said, if YOU are able to lose 50 pounds, get off it, and maintain your weight. Great. Unfortunately, it's not going to be the most common story.
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I think a lot of people could maintain their weight, maintaining is a lot easier than cutting. Particularly if you have to cut 50+ pounds, that is a SLOG. I bounce around between 185-200 pounds, and every couple of years I'll cut to get back to 185. It's miserable even for me and honestly I lose weight relatively easily. For fat people whose body is screaming at them to eat 24/7? No chance. If Ozempic can allow them to cut down to a reasonable weight the task of maintaining it is WAY easier than the cutting to get there.

Absolutely they shouldn't have gotten there in the first place, absolutely they should be able to do it natural. But they're clearly not, so if they just use it to cut I think I'm okay with that. There will be side effects to every medication, people need to decide if being obese is better than those side effects.
 
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I think a lot of people could maintain their weight, maintaining is a lot easier than cutting. Particularly if you have to cut 50+ pounds, that is a SLOG. I bounce around between 185-200 pounds, and every couple of years I'll cut to get back to 185. It's miserable even for me and honestly I lose weight relatively easily. For fat people whose body is screaming at them to eat 24/7? No chance. If Ozempic can allow them to cut down to a reasonable weight the task of maintaining it is WAY easier than the cutting to get there.

Absolutely they shouldn't have gotten there in the first place, absolutely they should be able to do it natural. But they're clearly not, so if they just use it to cut I think I'm okay with that. There will be side effects to every medication, people need to decide if being obese is better than those side effects.
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I'm quite on board with using it to ease transitionning from a shitty lifestyle to a better one, as long as their doctor tried bona fide to go the natural way first, and it’s temporary.

I'm skeptic it's going to be used that way in a majority of cases, and I'm fearing it's going to be yet another 'fix your lifestyle' that many people are going to take for years, alongside ppi, statins, hbp meds, sleeping pills, antidepressant.

I'd be curious to know what percentage of ozempic users are already on 2, 3 or 4+ of the drugs I listed.
 
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I'm quite on board with using it to ease transitionning from a shitty lifestyle to a better one, as long as their doctor tried bona fide to go the natural way first, and it’s temporary.

I'm skeptic it's going to be used that way in a majority of cases, and I'm fearing it's going to be yet another 'fix your lifestyle' that many people are going to take for years, alongside ppi, statins, hbp meds, sleeping pills, antidepressant.

I'd be curious to know what percentage of ozempic users are already on 2, 3 or 4+ of the drugs I listed.
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Okay, lets say you're 100% right. What do you propose to do about it?
 
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Lumping sleeping pills and antidepressants into the same category just shows how ignorant and retarded you are.
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I know a ton of mentally ill people that use both. For many, many years. What's retarded is our medical field today.
 
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Okay, lets say you're 100% right. What do you propose to do about it?
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Nothing more. FoH brosefs have been made aware of the bad feeling I (and some others apparently) have about this drug, and the reasons why. They’re big enough to make a decision for themselves.
 
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Nothing more. FoH brosefs have been made aware of the bad feeling I (and some others apparently) have about this drug, and the reasons why. They’re big enough to make a decision for themselves.
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Oh I agree, I think that hesitancy should be applied to all drugs. In general I think people should take the absolute minimum that they can take of anything.
 
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