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If widespread use of Ozempic decrease use of sleeping pills and antidepressant, I'll admit I'm wrong and that Ozempic is clearly a net benefit for society. But what I fear, is that it's not going to fix the underlying issue as you say, and that for 10-20% of the population it's just going to add yet another pill in their daily routine, to make their life slightly more bearable, like antidepressant and sleeping pills and desincentive people to get to the root of the problem and fix all their issues.

That being said, if YOU are able to lose 50 pounds, get off it, and maintain your weight. Great. Unfortunately, it's not going to be the most common story.
I think a lot of people could maintain their weight, maintaining is a lot easier than cutting. Particularly if you have to cut 50+ pounds, that is a SLOG. I bounce around between 185-200 pounds, and every couple of years I'll cut to get back to 185. It's miserable even for me and honestly I lose weight relatively easily. For fat people whose body is screaming at them to eat 24/7? No chance. If Ozempic can allow them to cut down to a reasonable weight the task of maintaining it is WAY easier than the cutting to get there.

Absolutely they shouldn't have gotten there in the first place, absolutely they should be able to do it natural. But they're clearly not, so if they just use it to cut I think I'm okay with that. There will be side effects to every medication, people need to decide if being obese is better than those side effects.
 
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I think a lot of people could maintain their weight, maintaining is a lot easier than cutting. Particularly if you have to cut 50+ pounds, that is a SLOG. I bounce around between 185-200 pounds, and every couple of years I'll cut to get back to 185. It's miserable even for me and honestly I lose weight relatively easily. For fat people whose body is screaming at them to eat 24/7? No chance. If Ozempic can allow them to cut down to a reasonable weight the task of maintaining it is WAY easier than the cutting to get there.

Absolutely they shouldn't have gotten there in the first place, absolutely they should be able to do it natural. But they're clearly not, so if they just use it to cut I think I'm okay with that. There will be side effects to every medication, people need to decide if being obese is better than those side effects.
I'm quite on board with using it to ease transitionning from a shitty lifestyle to a better one, as long as their doctor tried bona fide to go the natural way first, and it’s temporary.

I'm skeptic it's going to be used that way in a majority of cases, and I'm fearing it's going to be yet another 'fix your lifestyle' that many people are going to take for years, alongside ppi, statins, hbp meds, sleeping pills, antidepressant.

I'd be curious to know what percentage of ozempic users are already on 2, 3 or 4+ of the drugs I listed.
 

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I'm quite on board with using it to ease transitionning from a shitty lifestyle to a better one, as long as their doctor tried bona fide to go the natural way first, and it’s temporary.

I'm skeptic it's going to be used that way in a majority of cases, and I'm fearing it's going to be yet another 'fix your lifestyle' that many people are going to take for years, alongside ppi, statins, hbp meds, sleeping pills, antidepressant.

I'd be curious to know what percentage of ozempic users are already on 2, 3 or 4+ of the drugs I listed.
Okay, lets say you're 100% right. What do you propose to do about it?
 

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Lumping sleeping pills and antidepressants into the same category just shows how ignorant and retarded you are.
 
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Lumping sleeping pills and antidepressants into the same category just shows how ignorant and retarded you are.

I know a ton of mentally ill people that use both. For many, many years. What's retarded is our medical field today.
 
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Okay, lets say you're 100% right. What do you propose to do about it?
Nothing more. FoH brosefs have been made aware of the bad feeling I (and some others apparently) have about this drug, and the reasons why. They’re big enough to make a decision for themselves.
 

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Nothing more. FoH brosefs have been made aware of the bad feeling I (and some others apparently) have about this drug, and the reasons why. They’re big enough to make a decision for themselves.
Oh I agree, I think that hesitancy should be applied to all drugs. In general I think people should take the absolute minimum that they can take of anything.
 
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Hi fat friends. I went from 180lbs to 209lbs in the last year, so I'm joining fat camp. Got a peloton and dusted off the weights.
 
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That's just a foolish take. Acting like we should ignore advances in science, medicine, technology or any other field because you have some antiquated, stone age view of the world.

You and I don't see eye to eye and luckily society at large doesn't want to live in the past and act like a breakthrough like these GLP-1 drugs are somehow a bad thing.
If Animosity is thumbs upping your post you can be sure you're being a retard.
 
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I think you should all buy more ozempic. I care a lot about you guys. The stock price of novo has absolutely nothing to do with it, promise.
 
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kinda parachuting in here having not read any of this thread, but i do think it's funny that some people believe people without the willpower to eat right before ozempic will somehow develop the willpower to stay healthy after using ozempic to lose 50 lbs.

They lose weight and maybe go blind with ozempic and they'll gain it all back immediately the moment they stop taking it. They'll yoyo back and forth eventually hitting every possible side effect along the way and still end up losing feet to diabetes.

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Anyway I kinda have the opposite problem with weight loss, I need to rebuild a bunch of muscle mass I lost while at the same time I have to do alot of cardio for rehab purposes, so I end up having cravings non-stop cus i'm burning a lot of calories daily. I'm not trying to get swole or anything just trying to put on some muscle I lost from my health problems last year but i'm ending up like, skinny fat due to all the cardio.

Should I just go on like a pure protein diet or what.
 
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Anyway I kinda have the opposite problem with weight loss, I need to rebuild a bunch of muscle mass I lost while at the same time I have to do alot of cardio for rehab purposes, so I end up having cravings non-stop cus i'm burning a lot of calories daily. I'm not trying to get swole or anything just trying to put on some muscle I lost from my health problems last year but i'm ending up like, skinny fat due to all the cardio.

Should I just go on like a pure protein diet or what.
I mean thats what, carnivore or keto or some version of that bs? Just make sure you're eating enough protein for your body weight. I wouldnt pay attention to some fad thing.

My buddy started going to the gym with me a couple month ago and he is the spitting image of a short haired Asmongold. His problem was that he just didnt eat as much as I did. I got him on a solid meal plan based on his height and I can already tell he's bulking up. Or in other words, just controlling your diet and forcing yourself to eat enough protein will be more than enough.
 
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yeah I don't know shit about any of this stuff which is why i asked. so "eat more protein" if I want to build more muscle, but my problem is i am doing so much cardio i'm constantly craving carbs, like I could demolish a tray of fucking cookies or a dozen donuts two or three times a day.

i'm worried that if I just eat a bunch more protein i'll still want and end up eating a fuckton of carbs and i will just end up gaining weight
 

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yeah I don't know shit about any of this stuff which is why i asked. so "eat more protein" if I want to build more muscle, but my problem is i am doing so much cardio i'm constantly craving carbs, like I could demolish a tray of fucking cookies or a dozen donuts two or three times a day.

i'm worried that if I just eat a bunch more protein i'll still want and end up eating a fuckton of carbs and i will just end up gaining weight

Protein has this nice side effect of taking longer to digest, so you're full for longer

My lunch every work day is 6oz of grilled chicken and 2.5 oz of blueberries. That's not that much food, but I can go from ravenous before to pretty fucking full for 4-5 hours afterwards off that. I am actually kinda shocked that it works as well as it does, but that's less than 300 calories and 50g of protein, pretty easy to fit into any diet and bolsters your protein intake a ton.
 
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yeah I don't know shit about any of this stuff which is why i asked. so "eat more protein" if I want to build more muscle, but my problem is i am doing so much cardio i'm constantly craving carbs, like I could demolish a tray of fucking cookies or a dozen donuts two or three times a day.
Serious cardio cardio is actually bad for muscle growth. Depending on what your cardio load is you may want to cut back.

 
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Protein has this nice side effect of taking longer to digest, so you're full for longer

My lunch every work day is 6oz of grilled chicken and 2.5 oz of blueberries. That's not that much food, but I can go from ravenous before to pretty fucking full for 4-5 hours afterwards off that. I am actually kinda shocked that it works as well as it does, but that's less than 300 calories and 50g of protein, pretty easy to fit into any diet and bolsters your protein intake a ton.
I’m curious how you’ve been about food historically, nutrition vs enjoyment. Ramped up (down?) to the repetition, cold turkey, other? I would get bored of eating the same thing for lunch every day.
 

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I’m curious how you’ve been about food historically, nutrition vs enjoyment. Ramped up (down?) to the repetition, cold turkey, other? I would get bored of eating the same thing for lunch every day.

Historically I'm great with eating the same shit every day. I ate cereal every day for breakfast until I was like 35. I ate a sandwich for lunch every day until I was like 40.

Realistically, with weight loss or mass building, consistency is going to be key. Therefore you want as much consistency as you can for as many meals as you can so you can have a variety of stuff for the remainder. So this happened to work out really well for me, since I'm already super consistent. I just needed to adjust my consistency to be within my goals.

So, lets take a sample day (which is most days)

Breakfast
- 6oz Cantaloupe (potassium - I fuckin hate bananas, and they're too high calories)
- Dannon Greek yogurt, pick a flavor.

Total 138 calories, 13protein, 22 carbs

Lunch
-6 oz grilled chicken (find a marinade or a spice mix you like, shit doesn't need to be plain, it adds negligible calories, it's not like sauces)
-2.5 oz blueberries.

292 calories, 51 protein, 10 carbs

Post workout shake
2 scoops of gold standard protein powder (pick a flavor, doesn't matter)
2 cups of skim milk

407 calories, 65 protein, 30 carbs.

That's 3 "meals" out of the day, and is a grand total of 836 calories, 129g protein, 9g fat 62 carbs.

Now lets say you wanna stay under 2000 calories to lose weight. You've got 1200 calories to play with there. Do whatever you want for dinners or snacks or other bullshit and just stay under 1200 calories. Tracking like this was the key for me to unlock total control of my body. For example, I don't have any vices. Cherry Pepsi is the only thing I decided was non negotiable. That's fine, have a can or a bottle, it's 180 calories. Who gives a shit, I've still got 1000 to play with. My girlfriend makes homemade Crunch Wraps. I did the math one day on it, all of the ingredients are 700 calories. I can literally eat everything I said above, have a motherfucking homemade crunch wrap for dinner and wash it down with a Cherry Pepsi and I'm still under my maintainance for the day. The more that you can make consistent, the easier this is. So, my baseline every single day is 836 calories and I know I want a Cherry Pepsi for dinner. I can literally work backwards and figure out what my last meal has to be calorie-wise, and it can literally be anything. Spaghetti, tacos, fish, pork loin, whatever. It doesn't even matter what it is, I'm literally just mathing out one meal a day because I've made the rest of it consistent.

I get it, eating healthy can be boring, but I look at it like this - I gotta eat these 3 "meals" every day, The last meal can be anything I want, or nothing at all. Some days I skip dinner and get a large strawberry Blizzard. Or eat a row of Pumpkin Bars. Doesn't matter, because as long as I can keep track of that one meal's calories, I'm gonna stay on track.

Worth it.
 
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