Why do men keep putting me in the Girlfriend-zone?

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Well if you're a "friend" with a women you'd bang she's not a friend but a potential mate.
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Chukzombi

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men and women are different
women dont want friendship with men(im talking about hetero men), if they do then its because they either want to fuck the guy or use him for something. chicks arent any more intelligent than we are. women like gay guys because they can relate better to them. they know hetero men think with their dicks so its uncomfortable for a chick to be with someone who wants to stick their weenie in them and its not a mutual attraction. we arent talking quantam physics here. we are mammals and we want to fuck women, its in our DNA
 

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Why do *feminists* write huge diatribes when discussing, midst while offering absolutely nothing but cruft. Take a fucking writing course and learn some fucking concision. Your prose is awful and you could express your shitty invalid points in three sentences or less if you took the effort to actually think about the stupid shit you're putting into the keyboard, instead of repeating your 50 year old menopausal English Lit teacher's syllabus.
 

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Everyone is a douchebag in this world depending on if they fucked your shit up.

Women use seduction to get their way, once they have male support they whine to get what they need done.

Men don't whine to get their way because they've both instinctively and by nurture have learned, that men who whine are met with negative reproach. Men by the age of something-whatever
will have come to the conclusion that the world was originally built upon "might is right" and modern society exists as a convenience, and that the powerful today still manipulate
to some fashion the basic principle of "might is right" -depending on the context of the usage 'might'

I don't blame women for whining, they don't have much of a choice, they lack physical prowess, testosterone, and thus usually the confidence to secure what they need.
There are exceptions to this rule but these exceptionsareexceptionally rare, most women can't make even for passable leaders, I've met maybe a handful that I could see as potentially great leaders.
Maybe a bit larger of a pool if I were to replace "leader" with "boss".

I don't blame woman for whining, but I will call them on it (unless I'm trying to sleep with them).
At the end of the day if you're a feminist, what you do to get your way usually comes down to whining, anyone who whines to get their way as opposed to actually fighting will not have genuine support from men, only
fallacious "yes honey I agree, can we go back and have sex now/can I please sleep in the bed not on the couch" support from men.
 

Eomer

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The question to me is, is it a failing of men or of women that the majority of men don't want to be friends with a woman unless there is some initial attraction? Is it that we are just that shallow, or is it because they offer very little in the way of actual friendship? Some of both I'm sure, but which is the case most often? If I had to vote it would be that they don't offer what I want in a friendship.
Why does it have to be a failing, necessarily? Like I said before, I think it's just a fundamental difference in how men and women tend to bond with others. The majority of men have a larger circle of close male friends than a typical women has female friends. Females tend to have more transient friendships with most of their social circle. I'd imagine it comes down to an artifact of our evolution and early human societies, although I'm not going to pretend to have any deep understanding of it or explanations of why that may be. But regardless of the root causes or explanation, that difference along with the usual social dynamics of male/female interaction means that lasting platonic friendships between straight males and females tend to be rare. Not impossible by any means, but fairly rare.
 

Tanoomba

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Oh, boy! I can't wait for a lesson on feminism and how wonderful it is from a man! Gee, I'm so glad I get to learn about this contrived drivel!
Please describe to me what a "typical" outing is with you and your gals. I can't wait to hear this..
Today, a "typical" outing with a female friend would likely be going to some event/festival, or getting together for a meal. In all likelihood, my wife and my friend's boyfriend or husband would be part of this outing. I still might go out for coffee with a female friend to chat and catch up. Before I was married, my female friends and I would hang out at each other's places, drink, watch movies, play video games, check out the cherry blossoms, go to a local concert, go to karaoke, make art, or chat over coffee. This list is not exhaustive, and it's ridiculous that I have to justify my friendships to you, but I'll play your game if it will help shatter your world and somehow prove the impossible to you.


Hyperbole much? Just because we tend to still be mostly "primal" in our instincts, it doesn't mean we're still fucking cavemen.
Well, how do you define "primal"? We don't have to eat when we're hungry, we don't have to fuck when we're horny, we're capable of using logic and reason for every single decision we have to make in our lives. Some of us are capable of having a mature and mutually platonic relationship with a member of the opposite sex, and some are not. What's the problem?


It's not about getting "nothing". It's the fact that you can't explain to me what a woman offers via friendship, on atrulyplatonic level, that I'm not better served by getting from a male.
What I've been trying to explain but you refuse to accept, is that someone's gender makes zero difference as to whether or not someone can be atrulyplatonic friend. Males do not have some inherent ability to be better friends than females, and females do not have ulterior motives when being friends with males (at the very least, none of the females I'm friends with). My female friends offer me exactly what my male friends offer me via friendship, no better and no worse. I'm closer to some than others, just like my male friends. I keep in touch with some more often than others, just like my male friends. This should not be threatening to you, but it inexplicably is. Get over yourself, man.


Pretty much you're wrong, yeah. These women are either lying to you and want to bang you or you're supporting their emotional/monetary "needs" somehow. No woman wants to be truly platonic friends with a male who isn't gay.
You: Women and men can't be friends.
Me: I'm a man, and I have friends who are women.
You: Then they're not "real" friends.

I'll say it again: No true scotsman.

And by the way, I've been keeping the conversation pretty mature here, but I do take offense at this last statement. You don't know me or my friends. You are in no position to tell me why my female friends are friends with me. Your statement that "No woman wants to be truly platonic friends with a male who isn't gay" is not only unequivocally false, it's offensive to both men and women. Not everybody's as close-minded and immature as you. Get over it.


women dont want friendship with men(im talking about hetero men), if they do then its because they either want to fuck the guy or use him for something.
What the fuck are you people basing this ridiculous assertion on? If anything, it's men that make cross-gender friendships more difficult because they're the first to opt out when they realize they're not getting their dicks polished. Like I said many times, mature men and women have no problem being friends. It happens a lot. Get over it.


chicks arent any more intelligent than we are.
*snicker*


women like gay guys because they can relate better to them. they know hetero men think with their dicks so its uncomfortable for a chick to be with someone who wants to stick their weenie in them and its not a mutual attraction. we arent talking quantam physics here. we are mammals and we want to fuck women, its in our DNA
Allow me to point out some irony here: If anybody makes a comment about political history, fighter jets, hot sauce or pretty much anything, all the "pros" on these subjects will come out of the woodwork to point out any inaccuracies whatsoever in your comment. Because of this, most of you are careful to back up your comments to prevent yourselves from being made to look like idiots. When it comes to women or (god forbid) feminism, on the other hand, it a free-for-all "pull everything out of your ass" random bullshit off-the-top-of-your-head based-on-nothing garbage-palooza.
No, we're not talking "quantam physics" (although several posters here can explain that pretty well too), but that doesn't mean you can say whatever bullshit you want about women and have it remain unchallenged because "C'mon, guys, it'swomen. Amirite?" You are not an authority on women. You do not have female friends and, although you've probably made your share of women uncomfortable, you are in no position to make assertions on why men and women can't be friends.


Women use seduction to get their way, once they have male support they whine to get what they need done.
Here we go, another fucking armchair expert on women's psychology.

I don't blame women for whining, they don't have much of a choice, they lack physical prowess, testosterone, and thus usually the confidence to secure what they need.
The majority of us aren't factory workers or farmers anymore. Physical prowess and testosterone are not essential to "secure what we need" anymore.
The main thing that feminism is striving for is for people to stop saying garbage like this, because its exactly this attitude that prevents females from being treated as equals in society.
As long as assholes like you keep perpetuating foolish stereotypes, people will keep calling you on your bullshit and pushing for it to stop. You can pretend your statements are based on genetics or DNA or primal instincts all you want, but you haven't studied any of these topics and you're clearly pulling all this out of your ass. The fact that you have equally clueless morons willing to back up your baseless claims in order to boost their own confidence doesn't make the lot of you any less idiotic. Fucking wow, man.
 

ZyyzYzzy

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Tanoomba takes some feminist/women studies classes in college and is an instant expert on women. I'm still convinced he's a fatty hanging out with other fatties.
 

Tanoomba

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Tanoomba takes some feminist/women studies classes in college and is an instant expert on women. I'm still convinced he's a fatty hanging out with other fatties.
Nope, never took feminist/women studies classes. Nope, not a "fatty" and don't hang out with other "fatties".

This seems to be the only thread where, after making inaccurate assumption after inaccurate assumption, you guys don't even slow down to catch your breath.
 

Tanoomba

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Confirmed fat.
After a closer look, seems to be a under-average sized penis issue.
If you're trying to goad me into sharing a picture of me IRL with a bunch of fuckwads, it's not gonna happen.
Consider, however, that I have nothing to gain by lying about my appearance.
As for penis size, while the girls I've been with have been generous with compliments, I'm willing to accept that (like most men) my penis is average sized.
None of this has anything to do with anything, however.
You guys are grasping at straws by making assumptions about the type of person I am, and your assumptions have all been wrong anyway. Every single fucking one of them.
And I'm supposed to take your perception of women, a gender you have very little interaction with that doesn't end with your dick wet, seriously? Give me a fucking break.
 

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If you're trying to goad me into sharing a picture of me IRL with a bunch of fuckwads, it's not gonna happen.
Consider, however, that I have nothing to gain by lying about my appearance.
As for penis size, while the girls I've been with have been generous with compliments, I'm willing to accept that (like most men) my penis is average sized.
None of this has anything to do with anything, however.
You guys are grasping at straws by making assumptions about the type of person I am, and your assumptions have all been wrong anyway. Every single fucking one of them.
And I'm supposed to take your perception of women, a gender you have very little interaction with that doesn't end with your dick wet, seriously? Give me a fucking break.
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ZyyzYzzy

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Tanoomba, you must be new to the internet. Welcome. I'm sorry your wife has repressed you so much as to deny you access to this glorious invention. Its probably so she can more easily hide the fact that she is banging guys who dont have giant gaping vaginas such as yourself.