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Honestly, I knew "something" was going to happen eventually. Heroics are at 571, and Mythic is 593. But where did 90% of my 603, and my 610 gear come from? Delves. (599 on Shaman, 598 on Warlock). Delves, shit man.. I'd wipe them out on both characters, all four back to back, because they are quick, and simple. But that reward structure doesnt fucking match. I spend an hour and a half on delves for the week, and have better gear than what I would ever get out of a Mythic dungeon. NEVER MIND THE VAULT - where Im getting 3 choices of a 616 out of the vault for Delves, but for Mythics? A choice of 3 fucking 606's. I know that when Mythic+ opens up, this will be a non-conversation. But RIGHT NOW - this is all the content available, and it makes no fucking sense.
But the scaling? This shit is awful and a lot of the Delves arent setup for different classes in the least like Wombat said. To do an 8 by myself as a Warlock would be a snooze fest. "Oh no. They nuked my pet to death. Let me insta-cast a new pet and use a health stone to restore 90% of my HP every use. Oh no. Im out of health stones after that last pet death. Let me summon another 3 while in combat and go back to watching youtube." To do an 8 by myself as my shaman, whether thats elemental, enhancement and obviously as a resto - I just dont think it would be very fun or possible in some cases at the item level range we're all at now. Brann is 30 something now, and he's fantastic DPS by himself and with the right, epic tier, curio's - he's a pretty great healer. But he's not bringing the "tank" role to the instance for classes that need that meat shield like my Shaman.
Looking at those number's, the differences I think.. the NPC nukes are doing 20-25% of HP as the role you are. So a Tank, they're guesstimating that you have 8-11 million HP. So 2.5 million sounds roughly right, and to be quite honest - tanks have multiple interrupts so that shouldnt ever be a problem unless you're diving into an entire group of enemies. Which is obviously not what they want people doing. 1.3 million is about right for your average DPS by comparison for 25%. Which makes more sense when they say "606 is the suggested item level for this Delve" because then, they know that you roughly have that amount of HP.
Something I find amusing about Delves, especially in the higher tiers? ... So Juva and I did a tier 9 Delve yesterday. You know what I wanted in our tool kit that neither of us had in the roles/classes we were playing? A long crowd control ability like Sap or Polymorph. You know what would have really helped us with the empowered groups? (Which to be honest, were the only mobs that were even remotely a struggle) A tank. What would have really helped with all those nukes, traps and more? A multi-talented class like the Rogue. The amusing part? After we left, I realized that the Developers were making the higher tiers into an old Dungeon Crawl experience with the most optimum setup of classes being the same ones that you used to tread through the old Dire Maul, Hellfire Ramparts, etc. when they were current. Let me repeat myself "TO MAKE HIGH END DELVES DIFFICULT WITHOUT A TIMER - THEYRE REUSING TACTICS FROM OLD DUNGEONS" ... its fucking stupid and hilarious at the same time.
Shit happens man. You seem to be defeated, mentally, by a few bad come ups. As far as cool downs - use every tool in your box to compensate, at any time. If thats what you're saying, then by all means.. keep at it. It'll get better. You're concentrating on 593 gear, and the rest of us are over here bitching about Delves getting harder because the rewards are way the fuck better, lol. From what I understand, Bellular has some kind of huge mega guild. Theyre all cross server, cross faction, now - so join his and find a crew.
This was one of my bigger complaints back at the start when I was trying to be a completionist. There are quests particular to a zone, that require you to go back and forth between different zones in order to finish up that last particular quest. Like the quest in Dornogal that held me up was the bullshit one with the Magistrate. Where you help the same guy, in disguise, in the Deep, get away from some Nerubians? Kobolds? One of them. Then you meet the same magistrate, again, as himself - as the Embassador for the Earthen, meeting the Hollowfall people and you help negotiate a trade treaty between them. All because Dwarf from the Stonevault was killing every envoy that was sent to them. Then, you have to go back to Dornogal and do a follow up quest to repeat the story line.
That sounds all well and good - but the pain in the ass part? THERE ARE NO BREAD CRUMBS TO PICK UP EACH QUEST. So you have to take every fucking side quest you see and do that. Then there are quest markers that DONT show up on the map until you fly over them with your mount. THEN, on top of that, there are quests that only show up once a refresh. Like the little Commander and her subordinate in Hollowfall right there at all the Mushroom/fungal people in the bottom right of the zone? She has had a new quest multiple times for me. I was thinking it was a daily at first that wasnt marked because the quest.. is roughly the same shit every fucking time. BUT NO - it eventually leads to some quest that is an achievement by itself that isnt involved in the zone completion achievement. Its like someone told the quest designer to make a quest like this, and this was their first time doing it.
But there is an addon that I eventually got that just tracks every single quest. Theres multiple of that type of addon, so whatever you "fancy" as they all ping the database for quest completion and you can turn on what you have and what you dont have.
Also, I think gearing should be that easy, because it's meaningless. It should be 2 weeks per patch to generally gear up, and then you can spend more micromanaging it and getting BIS/etc.
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