World of Warcraft: Current Year

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Dandain

Trakanon Raider
2,092
917
LFR feeds the type of person who wants item progression as their ultimate goal, LFR underminds people who want to raid for a challenge, but have friends who couldn't cut it in a hardcore raid guild. My guild was never world first, but we were always a few months behind the top, with the modern 3 progression list, LFR is boring, Normals are now only 6-7 fights instead of 10+ And the heroics are generally so hard that they are beyond my group of friends ability to do, after 7+ years of raiding with them the fights we can't do without roster changes, benchings and recruitings has just grown - grown to the point where the guild just went away. The raid nights were no longer fun. This type of guild fell through the cracks hard. I'm sure we weren't the bulk of subscribers, but I just can't get interested in the current design, especially reputations, you can't just be a raider in WoW anymore. I don't necessarily want it to go back, it wouldn't matter to me at this point regardless. But their design did cost them a type of guild, because the game marginalized them a great deal.
 

Cybsled

Naxxramas 1.0 Raider
17,092
13,620
Or maybe even just add an optional Normal Mode LFR
...which would be doomed to failure w/o some type of gating mechanism, because you'd have scrubs queuing just to get a higher ilvl.
 

Dom_sl

shitlord
266
0
What they need to do is implement the proving grounds, which gives you a "skill score" based on your performance. Add that to some sort of "Shithead rating" and then they could do such a thing.
 

Cybsled

Naxxramas 1.0 Raider
17,092
13,620
That's harder than it sounds, though. How do you gauge a good healer? By healing #s put out, or prevention of deaths? How much of a death is on the tank/DPS and how much actually on the healer? Conversely, how much is a tank dying due to their own fault or poor heals/DPS not doing their job to prevent boss from doing whatever tank rape ability it will do because of a soft-enrage cap?
 

Dom_sl

shitlord
266
0
That's harder than it sounds, though. How do you gauge a good healer? By healing #s put out, or prevention of deaths? How much of a death is on the tank/DPS and how much actually on the healer? Conversely, how much is a tank dying due to their own fault or poor heals/DPS not doing their job to prevent boss from doing whatever tank rape ability it will do because of a soft-enrage cap?
Proving grounds, afaik, is something they want to put in akin to the Brawler's Guild. So, in the healer situation, there would be a scripted encounter where a healer would have to keep a group of NPC's alive (think benediction quest), and score would be measured on performance based on that. Keep them alive for X number of seconds, and you qualify for "normal LFR"
 

Caeden

Golden Baronet of the Realm
7,583
12,541
Honestly, the game is all reaction time and math. It'd be fairly reasonable to come up with a metric and design a proving ground system for each role since they're all pretty homogeneous.
 

Needless

Toe Sucker
<Silver Donator>
9,402
3,423
Nawwww Blizzard would rather just plow out 20 more dailies for us to do instead.

On the bright side.. stage 4 = i can make a lionheart champ/stormherald replica again, yaaay
on the down side.. solo queues are dreadful as a healer/tank spec, wtb that third spec asap
 

Caeden

Golden Baronet of the Realm
7,583
12,541
Is it me or does tri spec seem underwhelming at this point with the current talent system? I do play a DK and a Lock so maybe its my lack of a third role possibility making it feel that way. Perhaps playing my old paladin would make it better.
 

Dom_sl

shitlord
266
0
So I set out to get into playing the AH, and pursue general gold making activities last week. I'm bummed that I hadn't found interest for it before, because it's pretty fun. Making 20k a day sure as fuck doesn't hurt either. The best thing is that taking an hour to set up Tradeskillmaster for an area of the market means you can pretty much autopilot most of it afterwards.
 

spronk

FPS noob
23,364
27,242
be sure to check the Black Market Auction House (BMAH) which is near Wrathion, thats pretty much the big gold dump and good reason to make gold. TSM is pretty fucking awesome, get the wow mobile app for your phone/tablet and you can buy/sell on the shitter.http://www.wowuction.com/andhttps://theunderminejournal.com/are also awesome sites that scrape AH data and let you see patterns. At some point though you are sitting on 2m gold and just kinda... stop.
 

Saladus

Bronze Knight of the Realm
271
11
I was making a killing with setting up all professions during Cata with TSM, but the amount of time to keep all inventories full was just crazy. Well, more like, having to spend an hour or two every weekend to restock, which isn't THAT much, bit sill got boring fast. +1 for Wowuction.com , go to the bargin hunter tab, find your realm, and search patterns and armors. All I really prefer now days is browsing for an armor or two a day with a good flip for transmog. The effort / profit ratio is by far the best. Only issue is you have to have patience for the item to sell, as it'll take days to months for an item to sell. But if you have a bank full of transmog gear, you'll get several sales each day. I've bought tons of armors for 10-200 gold that have flipped for 2-7K.
 

Dom_sl

shitlord
266
0
Yeah, the transmog market is great. The server I'm on has people selling Saltstone pieces for 5g etc... I spent maybe 200g on easily 50k worth of gear in the past two days. The real investment was the time to setup proper auctioning groups, but that took maybe 3 hours max. Now I just do post and cancel scans twice a day and I don't need to worry about any of it.
 

Ramar

Lord Nagafen Raider
68
10
Scroll of Resurrection still around? I'm looking to sign back up if they're still available and anyone wants the bonus.
 

Salshun_sl

shitlord
1,003
0
Just ran the Thunder raids, holy shit this reminds me of EQ, long, hard and exhausting. Maybe it was just a shitty group...but don't care.