Alien: Covenant (2017)

So something that looks promising, and a complete 180 into dog shit, surprise scares.

Caliane said:

yeah. not sure... Prologue could be literal. its just a prologue that will not effect the "actual" movie in any real way.

What i gather from that. They visit the planet. the engineer homeworld has been overrun by the xenomorph weapon, machines just on autopilot. (note the ground clearly has large masses of living beings in a horde. Xenomorph behavior, not engineer expected behavior. So, David "nukes" them with the jars, or nukes that just look similar to the jars.
We've never actually seen a world overrun by them. Basically always an uninhabited world, or colony with an outbreak, that needs to be contained.

Cut to the "real" movie, starring the colonists.

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Really good call on the little specks maybe being xenomorphs. That fits way better with the story thus far and the little Ozymandias quote at the end.

Big Phoenix said:

How does Shaw even have tools to repair David?

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I've got a feeling that David coached her through it.... it seems sensible for that to be part of the knowledge for him to be programmed with would be self-maintenance. All he'd have to do is explain what he'd do to her assuming she wasn't already familiar.

(IIRC he was still a head capable of vocalizing at the end of Prometheus, right?)

Lanx said:

Sure, in my "SHIT HITS THE FAN BAG", i always carry around a soldering iron when i gotta repair my robo buddy.

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Shit, go back and watch the movie again and take a drink every time she uses some piece of tech she's never been trained with. There wasn't any scene of her dragging the body out of the ship into a new ship either. A lot of people had the impression that she just took off into space with the head and head alone.

Just gotta start looking the other way.

Arbitrary said:

Shit, go back and watch the movie again and take a drink every time she uses some piece of tech she's never been trained with. There wasn't any scene of her dragging the body out of the ship into a new ship either. A lot of people had the impression that she just took off into space with the head and head alone.

Just gotta start looking the other way.

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This thread inspired me to re-watch this yesterday. As a matter of fact, there is a scene of her struggling to lower David's body down off the crashed ship while talking to his head, so she clearly makes off with his body as well. I was surprised at that part as I had no memory of it.

Even watching her use the med-pod for her emergency abortion, it looked pretty intuitive, she was talking to herself clicking shit on it, emergency operation, foreign object, abdomen, surgery, go. Now her amazing fortitude AFTER that - though they do show her clearly in pain and gripping her abdomen at various points afterward, but still - that is fucking crazy. Sure she is shooting herself up with what I assume are painkillers the whole time but there is no way. And David literally poisoning the boyfriend after a VERY thin premise (would you do ANYTHING?? or whatever that jackass convo was), there is no goddamned way that android would deliberately do that to a living person. I read that Fassbender studied shit like Blade Runner for the role and totally avoided the first movies, and I thought, wow, that's admirable but fucking stupid, the mythos has androids established to act a certain way, why would you deliberately avoid that? Even though Fassbender is pretty much the lone bright spot here, though even a 5 watt bulb looks bright when its in a pitch-black room.

There was alot of badness here though, ALOT of pure badness, and I am a lesser person for having subjected myself to it again.

Even though I want to, I cannot bring myself to see this movie opening weekend. After the abomination of Prometheus, every fucking AvP, and every Aliens since #2... no fucking way they are getting $1 out of me until I have at least 3 trusted review sites saying it is worth it. It is time to stand up and say we do not want your retarded shit.

tbf, Hillary Clinton is hotter than Melissa McCarthy and Leslie Jones... but I don't want to fuck any of them, even with your dick. All you are claiming is that a 3/10 is better than a 2/10.

Fight said:

tbf, Hillary Clinton is hotter than Melissa McCarthy and Leslie Jones... but I don't want to fuck any of them, even with your dick. All you are claiming is that a 3/10 is better than a 2/10.

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I made it simple:

A:R, AVP, AVP2 and prometheus - 1/10

Just saw an actual preview for this on Disco channel. Definite "Aliens" feel to it. It basically looks to be pre Aliens as it is about a colony being overtaken by aliens.
Putting it all together from trailers I think we have the whole story.

Big Phoenix said:

jesus fucking christ, connect the dots for third graders.

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Sorry I'll make it easier by posting the trailers in order so everything is fully ruined properly.
10/10 would watch trailers for whole movie again.

Big Phoenix said:

LOL I wasnt talking about your post, but the plot itself. I instantly assumed that was going to be the setup after seeing the prologue.

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Ya I know, I just hadn't been really paying attention until I saw the prolonged trailer tonight then remember the David one. It's a shame they gave up so much between those 2.
I guess they arrive on this planet in 2111 and the planet is called ORIGAE-6

I guess at least it isn't LV-426.
All sorts of date oddness out there.
Alien was 2122.
Aliens set off in 2179

So this movie predates Alien by 11 years. Hmmmmm. About that crashed ship and distress call.