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Vaclav
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I ate out too much in my younger days, really only started watching grocery costs past decade or so they've not seemed extreme to me. (only really remember 2L prices from back in the day - and they've not been to ridiculous - $1 non-sale then, $1.60ish non-sale now for my areas)
Gas is the one that I always use as my personal gauge as a result, but then tempering it a little, since I know there's other factors in play with gas.
(Note: Seeing $3 for 5 lbs of store brand unbleached flour here - $2.40 technically right now, but that's the sale price - I wonder how exaggerated the metros are getting, I remember when the wife smoked cigs in NYC were like $8/pack and we're talking like early 2000s - they're still not $8/pack in Maryland yet [getting close from seeing the outdoor signs though - but I don't watch that closely now that she's quit])
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Gunnar Durden
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Just about everyone of Irish, Scandinavian, Polish, Italian etc heritage are the result of hundreds of thousands of people illegally showing up one day in America.
And it's only 45 thousand kids
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Kaines
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Immigration in The 1920s
Unless you were Chinese, there was no such thing as illegal immigration until the early 1920's.
Famm
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Kaines
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That's kind of how laws and freedom work. If there's not a law against it, it's not illegal. Alcohol was legal, then it wasn't, then it was.
Vaclav
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To be fair any Ill Eagles should be in an animal hospital since they're an endangered species.
Vaclav
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All those groups really didn't start immigrating here heavily until about the same time we started creating the laws to slow immigration - to imply that everything was hunky dory with them coming en masse (which note, I'm not complaining about - I wouldn't be here otherwise - but stating the general public opinion of them), when they literally created such a longterm influx of people that they forced us to finally implement immigration limitations within 10 years of them starting to come here in big numbers, is a tad silly to say the least.
And the numbers still kept up for those groups up through the 50's for most it appears.United States immigration statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Note: Considering they're quoting decennial polls on there, I think (although it's not elaborated to be 100% clear) that you'd need to divide by 10 to get annual figures.
Kaines
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That really wasn't my point and if I implied that, then I didn't do a good job of making my point. My point wasn't that everyone was Ra-Ra Immigrants until 1921. It's that the idea of "illegal" immigrants didn't come into being until the 1920's. Before then, again unless you were Chinese, and even then limitations were only put in place in the 40 years earlier, immigration was only limited by whether or not you could get here.
Obviously now there are a lot more economic and social issues to deal with when it comes to immigration than there were back then, but for idiots to blindly say that any Western European culture group "illegally" immigrated is preposterous as there was no such thing when Germans, Irish, English, etc. were coming over.
Burnem Wizfyre
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If only the Indians had some "laws" against people coming to their land and committing genocide against them, maybe they should have written it down on paper, damn technicalities!
This is what you sound like.
Vaclav
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You just repeated the statement that made me explain that again... While yes, some did come before we instituted immigration law, the majority happened right BEFORE AND AFTER we instituted (general) immigration law. It's preposterous to say that ALL English/German/Irish/etc came over legally during that window, because factually some did not. (In fact most stuff I read says that the WW2 era is when the majority of the non-Irish came over but it seems that the data during those years wasn't well kept [probably because of WW2/Great Depression issues])
What portion that "SOME" is is questionable - it looks substantial to me though from the census data and the fact that we weren't really an immigrant destination until we were building the railways to my knowledge.
Burnem Wizfyre
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The country was founded on illegal immigrants, I promise you at some point in history some Indians were sitting around a fire bitching about how they wish those white devils would get back on a boat and go back to where they belong.
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While the country was founded on immigrants, these are different times. There are reasons that those restrictions were put in place. Late 1800 and early 1900 cannot be compared to whats going on today. Im an immigrant myself. But we did shit legally, we had green cards waiting for us here and now Im a citizen.
What are you suggesting here, bro? They open up the boarders and just let people in? Because we feel bad for them? Whose gonna pay to take care of them? Whose gonna test them all for diseases and immunize them all? Whose gonna check into their past and figure out if that they are not criminals?
What are you suggesting here, bro? They open up the boarders and just let people in? Because we feel bad for them? Whose gonna pay to take care of them? Whose gonna test them all for diseases and immunize them all? Whose gonna check into their past and figure out if that they are not criminals?