Border Issue

Merlin_sl said:

Glen Beck was talking at length about this a year after Obama was elected. Now its so obvious but to the uneducated, it seems really random.



Flood America with illegal immigrants in an effort to collapse the system, then rebuild America in a more socialist fashion. I don't have a way with words, but this shit is so obvious. He is trying to collapse our system and our government. What better way to then overload our current welfare system to the point its unsustainable. Drive national debt up, take over the insurance industry and collapse that, not supporting our allies, letting rogue nations do whatever they want in the world. Obama is a cancer to our way of life. What positive has he ever done for this country?


I mean seriously. Its not happening fast enough for him, so hes going to fucking fly illegal immigrants here on the taxpayer dime. The fuck?

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Sebudai_sl said:

Why didn't I learn about any of this cool shit while I was getting my useless PolSci degree.

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Famm_sl said:

Does he really have eight kids?

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Sebudai_sl said:

Are you a religious nutjob?

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Abefroman_sl said:

So your just going to ignore the fact that illegal immigration was higher under Bush and actually went down under Obama and the fact that this crisis is because of conditions in central america all because herp derp Obama hates America?

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iAnus_sl said:

I don't think you can pin that directly on Bush. I really don't. Immigration was higher because there were more jobs which were attracting immigrants and there was a viable business model which relied on recruiting immigrants and then dumping them. So the jobs dry up, the money home trickles off, the incentive to go north is reduced, immigration creeps back to the baseline of seasonal migrants. I think Bush was more immigrant friendly. It's just a crisis which Obama has not faced. It's not like that's a big X against him. It's just he really hasn't had to deal with it besides for weighing in on his opinion of some off-color laws, his proper opinion that the Great Wall of America is such a breathtakingly stupid idea it is amazing that grown men in positions of political authority actually take it seriously, and saying things like "The best way to combat illegal immigration is to promote prosperity outside of our borders".

Does Brazil get flooded? It's no America but it is a strong presence and has been a growing one for decades now. It has to have an immigrant "problem".

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Big Phoenix_sl said:

Well it is a few months before the midterms.

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Abefroman_sl said:

I'm not really pinning it on Bush thought it sounded like it. I just find it funny that suddenly people act like illegal immigration was never a problem and that it suddenly happened under Obama's terms. Even worse is that it is some master plan by Obama to tear the country apart. Merlin's post should be in the Lumie thread, it's that fucking stupid.

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In light of the Cloward-Piven Strategy, which is at its very core a method to artificially induce crisis, the otherwise insane policy actions of the Obama Administration and preceding puppet presidents now become perfectly logical. Obama, after all, has been a long time proponent of the methods of Saul Alinsky, the left wing gatekeeper equivalent to Neo-Con godfather Leo Strauss. Cloward and Piven were also both avid followers of Alinsky, who promoted lies, misdirection, subversion, and abandonment of conscience in order to win social power at any cost (special note - Alinsky also dedicated his book 'Rules For Radicals' to Lucifer...yeah, to the friggin' devil).

Under Obama's watch alone, our real national debt including unfunded liabilities and entitlements has risen to nearly $200 trillion. Our "official" national debt has gone from $10 trillion to $17 trillion in the short time Obama has been in office. Real unemployment including U-6 measurements stands at around 20% of all Americans. Personal wealth and savings have plummeted. Wages remain in stasis while prices on necessary goods continue to rise.

In my articles 'The Socialization Of America Is Economically Impossible' and 'Obamacare: Is It A Divide-And-Conquer Distraction?', I examined much evidence suggesting that Obamacare was actually designed to fail, and that the bumbling of the Obama White House when dealing with the program was purely deliberate. When coupled with Obama's handling of the current illegal immigration conflict, I would say that the Cloward-Piven Strategy is in full force.

Why fight tooth and nail against all common sense and history, why lie openly to millions of registered voters to get the program in place, only to allow it to derail because of a poorly designed website!? Because, Obama and his handlers know full well that it will end up costing the country billions that we cannot afford, and aid in a resulting crash.

Why the sudden surge of illegal immigrants into the U.S.? Why not! The White House has made it clear that it has every intention of keeping them within America by allowing the border patrol to ship the detained across the country where they are then released. Obama's threat to use executive action to force through his own version of the immigration bill is the icing on the cake. Amnesty is essentially guaranteed, I believe, in the near term, which is why tens of thousands of Central American parents are willing to send their children on a journey where they could very well be kidnapped by sex traffickers or killed. If the White House really wanted to stop this humanitarian crisis, the President would state publicly and clearly that America is not a drive through welfare center, that there will be no free goodies at the second window, and that there will be no chance of amnesty, instead of diverting more agents to the border to ensure more illegals are shipped into the interior.

The president does not wish to stop the flood of immigrants exactly because Cloward-Piven requires their presence. Not only would this officially add millions of people to welfare rolls, but I would venture to suggest that Obama will likely include automatic sign-up to universal healthcare as part of his amnesty measures.
Is The Cloward-Piven Strategy Being Used To Destroy America?

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