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I'm building a few Win 11 machines. My wife knows she's getting one but my MIL does not. With all the invasive BS in W11 now, is there a way to install it where my MIL can do her own set up? Further caveat, I have all her files already installed before she sets it up?
 
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I'm building a few Win 11 machines. My wife knows she's getting one but my MIL does not. With all the invasive BS in W11 now, is there a way to install it where my MIL can do her own set up? Further caveat, I have all her files already installed before she sets it up?
this is not the kitchen, don't let her choose

you get what i give you
 
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And the hits keep on coming for intel. Z890 boards currently cant run on W1124H2.
It is pretty amazing how fucking sloppy companies have gotten. Non clownworld would have had a new version of Windows ready to roll the moment chips hit the shelves. I'd like to know the thought process behind releasing a product that doesn't fucking work and it being deemed at acceptable.
 

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I'm building a few Win 11 machines. My wife knows she's getting one but my MIL does not. With all the invasive BS in W11 now, is there a way to install it where my MIL can do her own set up? Further caveat, I have all her files already installed before she sets it up?
You can't easily do that. It's a few minutes to setup accounts and all that so probably 2 hours with an old woman. Transfer files after.
 
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"AI is gonna take over the world and literally solve science" meanwhile all the GPUs and CPUs this year blow fucking ass.
 
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I'm building a few Win 11 machines. My wife knows she's getting one but my MIL does not. With all the invasive BS in W11 now, is there a way to install it where my MIL can do her own set up? Further caveat, I have all her files already installed before she sets it up?
You can't easily do that.
Palum Palum is correct. It's probably not worth the effort for a single machine.


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Kajiimagi

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Palum Palum is correct. It's probably not worth the effort for a single machine.


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Thank you for actual answers gang. I'm probably going to do the setup after route. I'll wind up setting it up for her anyway. I 'built' both mobo's today. When the m2 drives are on the mobo , just putting the cooler on is the only real 'work' and it's kinda boring. Also , wtf AMD 7700 doesn't come with a cooler? Guess everybody needs to get that extra dollar.

Opened the becool case today too. Wow I think I'm in love. For the cost I am VERY impressed with the build quality.
 
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Also , wtf AMD 7700 doesn't come with a cooler? Guess everybody needs to get that extra dollar.
Funny you should mention this. When my kid built his latest 7600X3D system, he used my other sons cooler that came with his 5800X3D while waiting for his real cooler to arrive via Amazon. It worked, it worked well. Even looked cool too, but the thing sounded like a fucking hair dryer all spun up.
 
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Still no mATX boards for either of the new generation of cpu's - fml - That new HAVN case seems legit, maybe i will just resort to building in that to jump to the 9800X3D. That or find a decent mATX X670 board, which are seemingly few and not great.
 

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Still no mATX boards for either of the new generation of cpu's - fml - That new HAVN case seems legit, maybe i will just resort to building in that to jump to the 9800X3D. That or find a decent mATX X670 board, which are seemingly few and not great.
I saw GN did a review of that the other day and thought it looked pretty cool. If you go that route post up some pics. Still debating doing a build next year, my 12700K and 3080 still feel fine for now. But Monster Hunter, so I don’t know.
 

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Still no mATX boards for either of the new generation of cpu's - fml - That new HAVN case seems legit, maybe i will just resort to building in that to jump to the 9800X3D. That or find a decent mATX X670 board, which are seemingly few and not great.
There's 1 board that meets that criteria, and it was wildly expensive when it was available, and unobtanium now.

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Gravel

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Wow, read the last few pages of this thread and this is depressing.

I'm thinking it's about time for me to upgrade again. My last PC build was in 2018, although earlier this year my brother-in-law gave me some old spare parts (9900k, motherboard, etc). I've been getting a lot of bsod's lately, although it's partially because of running 18 box EQEmu.

Despite being a sysadmin in a previous life, I'm basically not tech savvy whatsoever anymore. To the point where my confidence in building my own PC is kind of shot (as in, I'm wondering if my current issues are due to me fucking up the assembly somehow). Like for instance, the CPU was getting so hot and sounded like a vacuum in the other room, so I ended up underclocking it.

It's led me to leaning more towards buying a premade PC, but then I see how fucked all the manufacturers are and it makes me rethink it. I'm 50/50 on picking something up for Black Monday or Cyber Monday, but not sure whether I do another build myself or not.
 

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If you want something quick/dirty/cheap, AMD 5700X3D for gaming. If you want Intel, 12900k is also cheap.

Ryzen 5700X3D is on DDR4 ram, but...the cpu itself is so cheap who cares. Make note of the 3D part at the end of the product name. It has a ton of cache which makes it an excellent gaming cpu. If all you are concerned about is gaming, this is the way to go. You can get CPU/MB/RAM for the price of one new Intel or Ryzen CPU.

12900k is also cheap and won't blow itself up in 2 years like the 13th and 14th gen Intel parts.

The new Intel (Core Ultra) and AMD (9000 series) CPU's are meh AND expensive.

Alternatively, you can go nuts and get a Ryzen 7800X3D, just make sure the DDR5 ram you get for it is CL30, no point in going faster than 6000 MHz. Also check to make sure it on the QVL for the motherboard you want.
 

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Wow, read the last few pages of this thread and this is depressing.

I'm thinking it's about time for me to upgrade again. My last PC build was in 2018, although earlier this year my brother-in-law gave me some old spare parts (9900k, motherboard, etc). I've been getting a lot of bsod's lately, although it's partially because of running 18 box EQEmu.

Despite being a sysadmin in a previous life, I'm basically not tech savvy whatsoever anymore. To the point where my confidence in building my own PC is kind of shot (as in, I'm wondering if my current issues are due to me fucking up the assembly somehow). Like for instance, the CPU was getting so hot and sounded like a vacuum in the other room, so I ended up underclocking it.

It's led me to leaning more towards buying a premade PC, but then I see how fucked all the manufacturers are and it makes me rethink it. I'm 50/50 on picking something up for Black Monday or Cyber Monday, but not sure whether I do another build myself or not.
scroll up i have 2 quick posts on an eol am4 system vs a premium am5 system (obviously you add hd/video card but those are 4 you need for the pc to boot, etc)
 

Lanx

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Yeah, I saw that. Would probably need a PSU too. No idea wtf is in mine without disconnecting all the power cables to take it out of the case.
to be real,

depending on the videocard, you most likely don't need a new psu if it's an video card, youre gonna use or whatever, of course if youre planning on 4080 whatever, then yea

list what you want, list what you got

are you going for cheap? are you got for total rebuild? are you trying to repurpose? from the sound of it you don't even have a main nvme drive
 

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So back in the rumor mill:

9800x3D review embargo lifts November 6th with product listings, specs, and prices.

November 7th for purchase.

Apparent leaked spec sheet:

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Nothing spectacular, just a slightly better version of the 7800, basically what the Intel Chip should have been. With the current 7800x3D scarcity, pricing and availability on this will be interesting.
 

Gravel

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to be real,

depending on the videocard, you most likely don't need a new psu if it's an video card, youre gonna use or whatever, of course if youre planning on 4080 whatever, then yea

list what you want, list what you got

are you going for cheap? are you got for total rebuild? are you trying to repurpose? from the sound of it you don't even have a main nvme drive
I've actually got 2 nvme drives (technically 3 but the board only supports 2).

Anyway, I'm not entirely sure. Likely something that'll be good for gaming for the next few years. But I've generally gone with middle tier parts versus high end and then running them until I can't anymore. I built my last one in 2017, although I've upgraded parts mostly from donations (basically everything below is newish to me cause it used to be one of the first Ryzen chips, 1500 maybe?, a 1060 gpu, and 16gb ram).

Currently it's a z390 motherboard with an i9-9900k, a 2070 super, 32gb ddr4 (literally just bought this a week ago hoping it'd fix some issues), and whatever the fuck Seasonic PSU is there to power it. I also haven't bought a new monitor in who the fuck even knows how long so I pretty much always game at 1080p.

Are Cyber Monday sales a thing anymore, or am I basically just better off buying now and not waiting a month?
 

mkopec

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Got a Microcenter near you? If so this is a good snatch...


Then you can snatch up a 4060ti or 5060ti when it comes out. Best of all its AM5 so you can float in a better chip down the line if you want. But the 7700 ddoes well in games even though it does not have the cache. Its what my kid was gonna get but they were out of the mo-bo so he decided on the 7600X3D bundle they had for $50 more.


The bundles are great because youre essentially getting the mo-bo for free. IF you have one close by, that is. Perfect mid/high system and you can keep your case, your drives, even your 2070 although its getting kinda old by now.
 
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Xexx

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There's 1 board that meets that criteria, and it was wildly expensive when it was available, and unobtanium now.

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Yo i heard this board killed CPUs so bad that they stopped shipping them to the states - i was wondering why only ebay/china has the board at all - Nah i feel triggered to build something but i just shrank down to mATX and i really do like the LianLi A3. However if i switch to 7800X3D or 9800X3D id go back full size because board selection for mATX is rather weak and i tend to jump on every new gen like a pornstar on the D. I cant be waiting months after a new gen for a mATX board to be released.