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I think we are about to transition back into the forest burning debate portion of tonight's thread activity...
I am down with player created content being instanced, but I hope its not in a fucking dungeon finder window. Just place a hobbit door in the side of hill and let me find it...
 
Pyros

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Vanguard had river flow shit iirc, which was mindblowing at the time, and still to this day isn't being done. It also had boats and shit.
 
Agraza

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If you mean rivers that push the character, Skyrim has that. I love that. I've been annoyed by rivers that don't move for a long time. If you mean something else, fuck you.
 
Pyros

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Agraza_sl said:
If you mean rivers that pushed the character, Skyrim has that. I love that. I've been annoyed by rivers that don't move for a long time. If you mean something else, fuck you.
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Na that's what I meant, current flow so you drift in one direction if you're not swimming, instead of having "rivers" made of still water. And yeah solo games sometimes have it but I don't think I remember another mmo having it.
 
tad10

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Agraza_sl said:
If you mean rivers that push the character, Skyrim has that. I love that. I've been annoyed by rivers that don't move for a long time. If you mean something else, fuck you.
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Time for your meds Agraza.

Also we need a lot more than river currents in our MMOs. Actual fucking weather that turns dirt to mud, landslides, avalanches, seasons that matter, yadda yadda yadda
 
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I must say I'm flattered with all the suspicion that I work for SOE. But the truth is I'm just a guy who's been avidly following the news for some time and enjoys some good detective work. I work in an evidence-based field and am a huge fan of Sherlock Holmes and the whole deductive reasoning thing. I find putting the pieces together really fun, to the point that I will probably be disappointed when the reveal actually comes and there is nothing left to work out
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I migrated here from MMORPG.com because they were censoring this sort of discussion which was extremely frustrating.
Here's me successfully predicting SOE's plans for the unlocking of Gabor's art-http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cf...826101#5826101
Here's me providing reason without almost any doubt about what the Kobold is-http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cf...860836#5860836
And here's me predicting the art style of EQN-http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cf...836595#5836595

I also had a post there providing all the evidence for what Flipmode stated (except the instancing part for which I used heavy logic) but that got deleted. I will now post it here now since I saved it:
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- A system that doesn't tightly restrict roles by class - already hinted by Dave Georgeson during MMORPG PAX east conferencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aI5CRaQvEg;in fact there is a discussion about it herehttp://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/389233
- Playable races being Human, High Elf, Dark Elf, Kerran, Kobold, Ogre, Troll - we already knew that since they (almost) all appeared on the Gabor art on the official EQN website, and since the Parkinson original displayed playable races
- Norrath being a huge ever-changing world- no news here, this has been known for a while now. Smedley publically said they are "trying to make a world that players create while being in a living, breathing world around them"
- Spells gained passively, by questing, and with books/tomes- Who would have thought?
- Combat has hotbars- nothing new here for an MMO.
- Crafting is important- no surprise here, it's a sandbox for crying out loud. Every MMO maker has the philosophy of making player-crafted items feel valuable!
- Free-to-play with a cash shop- already confirmed by Dave Georgeson on Cursed interviewhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVIIIZ6ETtY
- Housing and player-made content- The "world's largest sandbox" without housing, you're joking right?
- Beta soon after reveal - Terry Michaels already hinted we're going to need to help them out in the black box video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuuRIVm3YGg

Thanks folks!
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Pyros

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tad10_sl said:
Time for your meds Agraza.

Also we need a lot more than river currents in our MMOs. Actual fucking weather that turns dirt to mud, landslides, avalanches, seasons that matter, yadda yadda yadda
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This shit isn't even being done in single player games, no way they'd do it in a mmo. Still the basics are important, day/night cycle, randomized weather, that kind of shit is pretty cool and has been done so it can be done again. The theme park mmo concept isn't just the mechanics design of doing quest hubs and localized monster areas and linear progression etc, it's also the feel of the zones. WoW zones are always the same. They each have a unique identity made by using color scheme like int he sky and most elements and shit like that, but if you go to ashenvale it's always the same ashenvale, there's never an ashenvale by day or ashenvale by night or ashenvale when it's raining and that makes it feel very artificial, especially when it's connected to the fucking barrens. Having day/night cycle and weather(not necessarily advanced weather but like, cloudy, rainy, snowy maybe) you can go to a zone and level there for a bit and suddenly night falls and it's like an entirely different zone. Then it starts raining and it's like "motherfucker I can't see shit". That peaceful plain area becomes an oppressive scary area just by adding a few modifications.

Wish more mmos did that shit. PS2 has day night cycle so it should be the same I hope, just wish they add weather stuff too.
 
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rolx_sl said:
If you had to guess when the game is getting released what would you guess this year?
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That's one of the easier questions. Flipmode is spot on when he said "they are trying to launch Nov/Dec. the latest this game will launch is Feb/March time frame." The reasoning is sound that they want a little "shock and awe" factor by releasing the beta right after SOE live, and then launching during the holidays when the hype has not had a chance to settle down.
 
tad10

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superconducting_sl said:
That's one of the easier questions. Flipmode is spot on when he said "they are trying to launch Nov/Dec. the latest this game will launch is Feb/March time frame." The reasoning is sound that they want a little "shock and awe" factor by releasing the beta right after SOE live, and then launching during the holidays when the hype has not had a chance to settle down.
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March 2014. I don't care how well things SOE thinks things are going. Beta with actual people will expose stuff that has to be fixed. They may want Nov/Dec but it isn't going to happen.
 
Randin

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tad10_sl said:
Time for dinner anyway andBradsuperconducting won't tell us if it is action-y combat.

Also where's Ut in all of this?
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I've just figured it out. Superconducting is Ut's ultra-optimistic alt where he can express all his hopes for EQN without compromising his normal "everything is shit, and will remain shit" persona. It all makes sense now
 
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superconducting_sl said:
That's one of the easier questions. Flipmode is spot on when he said "they are trying to launch Nov/Dec. the latest this game will launch is Feb/March time frame." The reasoning is sound that they want a little "shock and awe" factor by releasing the beta right after SOE live, and then launching during the holidays when the hype has not had a chance to settle down.
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Before you go and claim I got all that stuff from the paintings, I spilled all this info to people long before it was ever revealed.
 
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EQ2 river...6 foot gap and unepic. Vanguard body of water....fucking invisible shark with no warning that hit you for 1 Million HP that I ran into upon my return to the game for the level increase. After MASS amount of deaths trying to receive my corpses and costing myself days of exp grinding (don't ask) I convinced a GM to give me a bunch of GM exp pots since I was a returning player and they needed to retain me! (She also let me transfer one of my VG characters off a 2ndary SOE account that I had sold when I quit EQ2. Talk about trying to please your customers, pretty sure that would be grounds to get your ass fired on the spot and she just IM'd a dev/janitor and they transferred the character onto another SOE account for me with out any credential checks or anything....the thing that got her hooked was the character had a similar name to my other account)

Anyways...invisible 1M hitting sharks, epic my friend. They could have just made it so i couldn't actually enter that water around the high level content or put a warning sign but nope...they opted for the oldest gag in the book....god damn invisible sharks!
 
Big Flex

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gogojira_sl said:
Flipmode, you should have asked if trolls were proper trolls again: fatty shapes and big ears.
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Most important question outside of PVP-related ones.

on a related note, seems like innothule is going to be fucking packed on launch day, quite a lot of troll lovers on here.
 
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