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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
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Cinge
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You can hope, but in most action based games, attacks are AE based by default. Like they said "no targets, swing a sword and hit all mobs in the way". So you are not going to be "Blocking" attacks, the person targeted still has to getfo out red circles. Shielding, stuns, CC , debuffs, maybe a intervene style move etc are possible, but nothing new.
I think the most you might get is like Tera atm. The Lancer(tank with a shield) can "block"(which is a activated and hold ability) and anyone behind him takes less damage.
arallu
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Dr Neir
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http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.p...Q-Next/page171
I am very happy with the Keynote and the talks about SWG possible crafting in other interviews. Hoping for quality based mats. Maybe refining copper to a more pure metal before using it to gain a better item.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4nsw...0Glc8vVhOrXt4g
I never saw the Voxel thing coming though, but does solve a ton of problems using it. With that, the mentioning about just seeing what someone has equipped I will guess its about what you see on mobs also. Hill-giant earrings, Froglok Yak...etc. Would be nice to see mobs holding things you really want from them.
I love the living world idea. This is very much what I have been soo wishing for. Dynamics!
Mmmmm, no lvls they say? Guessing some heads cant bend their thought around on that one.
Will see how this works, glad to see a game that is something very close to what I was looking for and in many ways above my expectations for a change. It could be all crap but so far I like the idea I can get in and help mold the landscape, build a town and explore!
Guessing the following:
-Attributes = AA's?
-Gear like Items, Armor, Weapons and other things are voxel based also? They degrade and morph in looks when degrading and being damaged?
-Healing landscapes would mean its NPC's in those areas rebuilding those buildings, items?
-Raids would unlock new higher tier mats, classes, skills, AA and crafting plans/tasks.
-Raids I would image being global Ralley Call. Those missing out on X unlock at X time wont have X skills, classes, etc...
-Tiers would unlock usable items. Must like a tier 1 war can use Claymore and longsword but a tier 2 war can use hammers, tier 3 lances...etc The special actions/animations and damage/effect being on the weapon style, much like what the keynote stated.
-No or limited AH? Hoping for very limited like city only setups. This will help in building a community of shops and trade hubs. Global buying/sell just kills a game. Why I loved EC tunnel and later Bazaar. Never liked AH.
Just saying....
I am very happy with the Keynote and the talks about SWG possible crafting in other interviews. Hoping for quality based mats. Maybe refining copper to a more pure metal before using it to gain a better item.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4nsw...0Glc8vVhOrXt4g
I never saw the Voxel thing coming though, but does solve a ton of problems using it. With that, the mentioning about just seeing what someone has equipped I will guess its about what you see on mobs also. Hill-giant earrings, Froglok Yak...etc. Would be nice to see mobs holding things you really want from them.
I love the living world idea. This is very much what I have been soo wishing for. Dynamics!
Mmmmm, no lvls they say? Guessing some heads cant bend their thought around on that one.
Will see how this works, glad to see a game that is something very close to what I was looking for and in many ways above my expectations for a change. It could be all crap but so far I like the idea I can get in and help mold the landscape, build a town and explore!
Guessing the following:
-Attributes = AA's?
-Gear like Items, Armor, Weapons and other things are voxel based also? They degrade and morph in looks when degrading and being damaged?
-Healing landscapes would mean its NPC's in those areas rebuilding those buildings, items?
-Raids would unlock new higher tier mats, classes, skills, AA and crafting plans/tasks.
-Raids I would image being global Ralley Call. Those missing out on X unlock at X time wont have X skills, classes, etc...
-Tiers would unlock usable items. Must like a tier 1 war can use Claymore and longsword but a tier 2 war can use hammers, tier 3 lances...etc The special actions/animations and damage/effect being on the weapon style, much like what the keynote stated.
-No or limited AH? Hoping for very limited like city only setups. This will help in building a community of shops and trade hubs. Global buying/sell just kills a game. Why I loved EC tunnel and later Bazaar. Never liked AH.
GW2 had a strong Quest! system and after that it was Heart timed events, nothing really dynamic about the game.
Agraza
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How does he hire you? Does he run up and tackle you and then offer the quest? Does your mailbox get crammed full of quest offers dynamically assigned to you based on your emergent choices?
How will "content be presented to you"? Like a big futuristic updating map of locally relevant quests? Or do you just try to blunder into as many clusterfucks as possible? I can see the blog of our adventurer now..."Was wandering by the lake earlier, some kobolds burned down this farmers house and he begged me to help him. #FML" and "Was walking by the fountain in town today, some merchant ran up to me whining about his lost shipment in the ocean of tears, asked me to go find it #FML".
I'm eagerly anticipating their totally excellent new way of pushing content on you that's better than ! above a guy's head.
Lithose
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*A class is defined by armor type, weapons, and weapon abilities - those cannot be changed.
*A class also has four other abilities grouped by type (movement, defensive, offensive, utility) that can be swapped.
*Items often modify class abilities and make a difference in how you play. Abilities + Items = Class Build. Examples are Brain Burn, Teleport, Spell Reflect, and Stun.
They said classes define what "type" of abilities you can have. So a rogue, I think they said, has one mobility, one utility, and two offense. The rogue class can't slot a defense ability in. And from the above, I'm guessing armor kind of works the same way, being a rogue restricts you to certain armor pieces--and armor itself can be slotted for unique effects on each ability.
So, if you have a lightning offensive ability, then a leather and plate chest might affect it differently. So the same ability can change due to multiple variances of class/armor/ability/weapon. As ranger said, it's like how some items in LoL can completely change how a character plays--I assume classes will be more akin to lol champions than how we understand classes now, and each ability will be augmented by armor, so it all works together to produce an end product that could be radically different (They also hinted at each armor having crafting slots, so if you say, use element X in your chest Y spells will get Z effect.)
All in all, if the above works the way they are hinting at, it creates thousands of variables per each class, and each skill. Which is neat. This kind of item system, if it's how I think it is, is far, far better than what most MMO's use.
There was a ton of stuff going on in GW2 outside of hearts. Events happening all over the map that you could join in on for exp/loot. The idea is the same here I think. You aren't going to be running into a quest hub and picking up half a dozen "collect X for Y" quests. Most of that stuff will just be going on, and you can join in on it if you want too.
Teekey
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There are healers and tanks. But completing content isn't going to necessary require those roles if you can outsmart.
"Tactics are more important than roles."
"No dedicated healers or focused tanks based on combat mechanics."
"Combat model - visceral, active movement orientated gameplay."
"Everyone is responsible for their own safety, and part of the action."
Yes the game will recognize when you're acting in a defense/support role."
"Everyone involved in the action. Defensively themed class will do damage and is useful. Have responsibility and function in group and raid. I played NW, not the case."
"You'll need to be involved or your party members will wonder what you're doing. We don't want you staring at bars and clicking CHeal. We want you involved."
No straight healing classes just means this game is going to be straight nub. Thats all there is too it. Warriors are going to heal themselves? wtf?
Cinge
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Sounds like "walk into a inn, hear some guy at the bar drinking talking about his lost/stolen goods or his kid/wife kidnapped by XXX". Will be interesting how its handled, do they still allow some kind of journal so you can keep track(quasi quest log) but not paste the quest onto the UI etc.
Though everything will be mapped out and datamined rather quickly, so if you want item that gives awesome_ability_01, you go look it up to see where it comes from.
Sounds exactly like GW2, almost literally and it was laughable to consider healer anything in that game besides everyone having their own heal(their own safety). I guess you could say the guardian was a tank, in regards to it could take more damage.
Maybe it will be different, maybe it wont. Atm though it sounds eerily similar with the same exact buzz words and marketing.
Big Flex
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Teekey
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Even better is that there may be a choices in 'solving problems'.
Kobolds are raping and pillaging these farmers. Do I want to join in on the raping and pillaging? Or come to the rescue?
Diablo style I wonder how much SOE will sell health pots for.. LOL? Best idea ever, NOONE CAN HEAL BUT WE SELL COMPLETE HEALING POTS FOR $20USD!!!!
iannis
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Well there's lots of room in the middle.
If you cut collecting bear ass tasks to a town-square type poster board affair that negates a lot of the need for the symbols. If you have handcrafted areas with NPC's who have an obvious and distinguishable function, that cuts down a lot on it too. That master shipwright might be looking for some special wood if you go talk to him. Heh. Special wood.
But if you just make a city map and toss in 200 NPCs with generated names, you do tend to need the symbols because no one knows what the fuck is going on. Or cares. Because really nothing is going on besides there's 200 random NPC's who do different random shit and none of it makes much sense anyway.
I just mean there is an area there where it can be mainly intuitive. Holy crap, if RuneScape can do it I hope that SOE can manage.
arallu
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Right, but they touted the whole, 'go out and explore our world' thing and the theme-park kiddies complained about being underlevelled etc. cause they finished the hearts and moved on and got wtfpwned in the next zone over.
I guess w/o mobs n characters having levels and being more horizontal power-wise maybe that wont be as an issue with EQN, but there will be those who still yearn to be dragged around by the nose.
Caliane
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yep. This board and casuals alike proved very very few people want a true unguided experience.
Gw2 was pretty amazing for explorers. The other 95% complained that they were underleveled.
If every MMO is gay as fuck like all these lately, I guess I must just not be this "genre" that loves it so much. What a fucking let down all you bitches that wanted to see tears here you go /tears about to delete this fucking bookmark.
Teekey
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Perhaps he doesn't even contact you specifically. Maybe he just rants about having an item stolen by some Kobolds. You could then set out to find it yourself. OR you could, in your adventures, just find the item. Maybe you'll remember that some guy lost something, or maybe you'll have to do some searching to see who it belongs to.
I'm not sure why you seem to prefer the!method, or think quests can't be presented in a more interesting way.