I do not believe in equality

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Khane_sl said:
That's what I don't get. That's the second time you've said "check your privelege". You gotta stop going to those threads here man, how many people have you run into out in the real world who actually think and speak that way? Someone who would actually say "check your privelege"? I already told you, I don't really care enough to do anything about it other than say "Inequality exists, it effects things in this country, would be nice if someone else wanted to figure it out and had a good plan. But I'm gonna go play golf, throw away this chicken sandwich because I don't like how much mayo is on it, and tell the cashier no when she asks if I'd like to donate to the current flavor of the month charity".
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I hate to even say this because I know what's coming, but I think about this sometimes too. I'm actually in college and I never run into these people. I never see then in life. The closest I get is the hacker community is all super inclusive about trans people, and even the most obnoxious of them is not one of these weird tumblr people. It sometimes seems like people on this board, and other places on the internet, seek this shit out, like getting off on being outraged. This place has always been a surly fucking nuthouse, but strangely used to be more open. Now there's pretty much just one discussion and about 50 different places to have it under the rerolled banner.
 
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Khane_sl said:
And nobody told you to check your privilege. And I don't know how many times you need to be told or how many times you need to re-read the very posts you quoted before you realize that.

And gee go figure a thread about asking for help with your problems where you participate in even harsher lambasting about far more non-destructive problems.

It was said that everyone has equal opportunity. Something you even disagreed with in the end. And I said "That's not true" and formed an argument around why I think that.

Nobody shamed you. Shut the fuck up about how you were somehow wronged by my argument.
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So, no answer about what the point is?
 
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I already answered the question Cad. Like 6 times in fact. Go back and read. You've had plenty of opportunity.

I mean are you fucking kidding me Mr. Lawyer? Someone presents a statement you believe to be false, so you say it's false and go about attempting to prove it's false. You should know what the point of that is.
 
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None of us would say terrible circumstances don't exist or don't play a huge role. It's just that you have the opportunity to rise above it.
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Yeah, you definitely aren't limited by any circumstances, that's why this is Murica but my point is just that some people do start out a couple steps ahead so it's a bit silly to claim everyone has equal opportunity.
 
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chaos_sl said:
I hate to even say this because I know what's coming, but I think about this sometimes too. I'm actually in college and I never run into these people. I never see then in life. The closest I get is the hacker community is all super inclusive about trans people, and even the most obnoxious of them is not one of these weird tumblr people. It sometimes seems like people on this board, and other places on the internet, seek this shit out, like getting off on being outraged. This place has always been a surly fucking nuthouse, but strangely used to be more open. Now there's pretty much just one discussion and about 50 different places to have it under the rerolled banner.
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Yea, out in the real world it's a lot more insidious, they aren't in your face with it and it's much more gradual. Go figure - people are more reasonable.

Like I said to Khane, nobody would ever come up to me in real life and try to explain to me how many opportunities I've had and how lucky I am. It's just not done.

Easy examples: My mom loves that Outlander series of books. She asked me to read it so we could talk about it. I read the basic synopsis and realized it's a time-traveling romance novel. I don't like romance novels. I told her I didn't want to read it. "Why, because it's written by a woman?" Lets not even bring up Bill Cosby or Hillary Clinton.

But in general, people are way less extreme in real life, I agree - don't really know how to ratchet that down online when you're accused of racism for just about anything, for example.
 
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Khane_sl said:
I already answered the question Cad. Like 6 times in fact. Go back and read. You've had plenty of opportunity.

I mean are you fucking kidding me Mr. Lawyer? Someone presents a statement you believe to be false, so you say it's false and go about attempting to prove it's false. You should know what the point of that is.
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Big dick Khane showed us how privileged we are! A great day was had. Thanks Khane. A+ job!
 
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Cad_sl said:
Yea, out in the real world it's a lot more insidious, they aren't in your face with it and it's much more gradual. Go figure - people are more reasonable.

Like I said to Khane, nobody would ever come up to me in real life and try to explain to me how many opportunities I've had and how lucky I am. It's just not done.

Easy examples: My mom loves that Outlander series of books. She asked me to read it so we could talk about it. I read the basic synopsis and realized it's a time-traveling romance novel. I don't like romance novels. I told her I didn't want to read it. "Why, because it's written by a woman?" Lets not even bring up Bill Cosby or Hillary Clinton.

But in general, people are way less extreme in real life, I agree - don't really know how to ratchet that down online when you're accused of racism for just about anything, for example.
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So let me see if I'm reading this right.

You think the reality is actually MORE insidious than the retarded (yes a_skeleton_03 I know, I won't edit it out because I realize it) movement, but you'd never know it unless you were enlightened to the real meaning. So it's basically a conspiracy.

You've never had anyone tell you you're fortunate, ever, at all. So if anyone ever dared utter those words you'd take it as the highest form of insult, because that kind of talk is completely out of the ordinary. People talking about how fortunate they are.

Your mother must be one of them because she asked you a loaded question (that actually is a loaded question), I mean, you just used your own mother as an example of this very insidious behavior your describe.

And you don't know how to wave off ridiculous claims that attack you personally on the internet.
 
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Cad_sl said:
Big dick Khane showed us how privileged we are! A great day was had. Thanks Khane. A+ job!
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This is your argument now? So anytime someone disagrees with a statement they need some other, ulterior motive and hidden meaning to the argument they're trying to make? The argument that they believe your ideas are incorrect isn't good enough to debate? This is where you're taking it now?
 
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Khane_sl said:
So let me see if I'm reading this right.
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Spoiler: you're probably not

Khane_sl said:
You think the reality is actually MORE insidious than the retarded (yes a_skeleton_03 I know, I won't edit it out because I realize it) movement, but you'd never know it unless you were enlightened to the real meaning. So it's basically a conspiracy.
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Do you know what insidious means?

Khane_sl said:
You've never had anyone tell you you're fortunate, ever, at all.
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Smart, handsome, hard-working, talented... fortunate? Nope.

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So if anyone ever dared utter those words you'd take it as the highest form of insult, because that kind of talk is completely out of the ordinary. People talking about how fortunate they are.
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I didn't say anything about an insult. I'd probably think thats a very strange conversation to have, one in which I am sure to be asked for money, however.

Khane_sl said:
Your mother must be one of them because she asked you a loaded question (that actually is a loaded question), I mean, you just used your own mother as an example of this very insidious behavior your describe.
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I did! You read that correctly! Aside from the "one of them" part.

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And you don't know how to wave off ridiculous claims that attack you personally on the internet.
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Are you admitting your claims in this thread have been ridiculous? I mean, I agree, but..
 
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Khane_sl said:
This is your argument now? So anytime someone disagrees with a statement they need some other, ulterior motive and hidden meaning to the argument they're trying to make? The argument that they believe your ideas are incorrect isn't good enough to debate? This is where you're taking it now?
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I don't know what you do with your time but I only correct those ideas I think there is some point to correcting. I mean, with the amount of blatantly wrong shit posted here all fucking day you'd be a busy guy.
 
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Well you've also claimed you've never run a red light or driven without a seat belt so I take everything you say with a grain of salt.
 
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Khane_sl said:
Well you've also claimed you've never run a red light or driven without a seat belt so I take everything you say with a grain of salt.
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I have not, ever. Those two things are sacrosanct to me like huge. I don't know where and why I would have discussed that here though. Seatbelts were beaten into me at a young age. We had a jeep cherokee in the 80's and my brother and I were in the "cargo" area in the back and my parents had bought seatbelts and bolted them into the floor to keep us safe. We would have died in an accident but hey we were the adopted kids and most importantly the car was now legal. The red light is just a no brainer. I speed like a bat out of hell and my trophy ticket is 120 in a 55.
 
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You must go through tires like a madman then. Kinda hard to stop at EVERY red light without slamming on your breaks a few times with all that speeding I'm sure. Those yellows don't last that long.
 
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Cad_sl said:
Yea, out in the real world it's a lot more insidious, they aren't in your face with it and it's much more gradual. Go figure - people are more reasonable.

Like I said to Khane, nobody would ever come up to me in real life and try to explain to me how many opportunities I've had and how lucky I am. It's just not done.

Easy examples: My mom loves that Outlander series of books. She asked me to read it so we could talk about it. I read the basic synopsis and realized it's a time-traveling romance novel. I don't like romance novels. I told her I didn't want to read it. "Why, because it's written by a woman?" Lets not even bring up Bill Cosby or Hillary Clinton.

But in general, people are way less extreme in real life, I agree - don't really know how to ratchet that down online when you're accused of racism for just about anything, for example.
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No one would ever do that because that's pretty fucking personal. A person who knew you might. Honestly would you disagree? We're all lucky. We're well off, educated Americans, mostly white (sorry Khane and Brahma), we're pretty god damn lucky. That doesn't mean we didn't work hard or overcome adversity, it doesn't put an asterisk next to every accomplishment we have.

The internet is so extreme and weird. I swear it didn't used to be this bad.
 
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It was always this bad, it just wasn't quite as bad here. Because we used to actually talk about video games. Because we actually had video games we liked playing and were worth talking about.

I can't understand you guys saying nobody has ever just sat back and said something about how fortunate we are or how good life is. I don't buy it. Cad and a_skeleton_03 would probably implode if they ever met anyone from my family. The word "blessed" gets used to describe everything. I hate it too but I'd never say something idiotic like "Uhh? Check my privilege? Really?". Just the fact that THAT'S what you've decided to get pissed about kind of proves the point.

Cad would probably kick a baby at Thanksgiving at Khane's

"Let us give thanks"
"Thanks for what?! I FUCKING WORKED FOR THIS SHIT MOTHER FUCKERS!"
 
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By the way Cad how was it you were able to switch careers and go to law school? Refresh my memory so everyone can agree on equal opportunity, except if you're denied the opportunity by things like your wife not having a good enough job to support your ass.
 
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Khane_sl said:
By the way Cad how was it you were able to switch careers and go to law school? Refresh my memory so everyone can agree on equal opportunity, except if you're denied the opportunity by things like your wife not having a good enough job to support your ass.
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Haha you really can't conceive of someone doing something for themselves huh?

A> I made more than you 10+ years ago and lived below my means and had a lot saved prior to quitting to go to school
B> I got bought out of various ventures when I quit which gave me a lot of cash on hand
C> I chose wisely and married an educated woman
D> I am a 99th percentile test taker and got a full scholarship to law school as a result

But oh yea... I didn't build that

Lol

get the fuck out of here with that
 
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