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Khane

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Cad_sl said:
Haha you really can't conceive of someone doing something for themselves huh?

A> I made more than you 10+ years ago and lived below my means and had a lot saved prior to quitting to go to school
B> I got bought out of various ventures when I quit which gave me a lot of cash on hand
C> I chose wisely and married an educated woman
D> I am a 99th percentile test taker and got a full scholarship to law school as a result

But oh yea... I didn't build that

Lol

get the fuck out of here with that
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Haha, you're lying about the full scholarship again dude? You literally gave me a tuconet for calling you out about that when you were trying to be sympathetic and claimed your wife supported you while you went to law school. It would take no fucking effort for me to post the link to that entire conversation here.

You are so fucking pathetic.
 
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Khane_sl said:
Typical RR arguing style though. Someone disagrees with a basic tenet of an argument, and it gets extrapolated as if I'm making some wild claim about entire populations of people everywhere and that I'm championing a cause.
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Khane_sl said:
Nobody shamed you. Shut the fuck up about how you were somehow wronged by my argument.
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For some people, everything is a personal attack. Ironically, it's usually people who moan the loudest about "victim mentality".




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I can't understand you guys saying nobody has ever just sat back and said something about how fortunate we are or how good life is.
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I don't get it either. I semi-regularly make comments to friends and family about how lucky I am/we are, and I think about it even more. And I don't make a fraction of what any of you fuckers make.





Khane_sl said:
Cad you're turning into a buffoon and you don't even realize it. You're becoming the opposite side of the same coin of a minority of the vocal morons you despise. You spend too much time in an echo chamber of hatred and now you're even employing the same tactics you despise them for employing. Accusing people of being "one of them" and using bullshit terminology like "check your privelege" just to shut people up. As if anyone outside of a small subset of forums here and at places like reddit would even recognize as a thing to be afraid of being associated with. You're starting to believe that SJWs are a gigantic problem for the future of America and letting that shit leak from the threads it should be contained in and into your everyday speech. Including accusing people who say normal, everyday innocuous things like "Hey man, some people have a harder time, you don't empathize at all with that?" of aiming to shut down free speech and castrate men. What happened in this thread was a completely normal dialogue and even rather tame for this forum.

So go ahead and keep saying stupid shit like "Did you just tell me to check my privilege". Imbecile.
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Maybe its a cultural thing. No family member or friend has ever came up to me and said "Man, you sure were lucky to have gotten your PhD!" and if they did I would be fucking irritated. No bro, it didn't just magically happen to me, I had to work for a really long time on it. It diminishes the work that you did.
 
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Tanoomba is your future khane, you don't realize it because you're privileged.
 
Khane

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khalid_sl said:
Maybe its a cultural thing. No family member or friend has ever came up to me and said "Man, you sure were lucky to have gotten your PhD!" and if they did I would be fucking irritated. No bro, it didn't just magically happen to me, I had to work for a really long time on it. It diminishes the work that you did.
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There's a disconnect here. Nobody comes up to me and says silly stuff like that either. But people do reflect on their lives often in front of me and include me in their sentiment. Like when we had a good day and are enjoying a few cocktails... "We have it pretty good don't we", or if I'm just chillin, relaxin, maxin all cool and someone says "Life's not bad for Khane huh".

You know what I do? I raise my glass. I sure as shit don't take off my sunglasses and say "EXCUSE ME?"
 
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Khane_sl said:
You must go through tires like a madman then. Kinda hard to stop at EVERY red light without slamming on your breaks a few times with all that speeding I'm sure. Those yellows don't last that long.
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I look ahead and I don't go 120 in an area with traffic lights .... how and why are you on this subject?
 
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It's fun reading how this thread has devolved. Khane an opportunity exists just by existing, the amount of effort or extra effort it takes to reach that opportunity does not negate it's existence. At no point was the thread about we are all equal, starting from equal footing. So save your sob story about people's starting circumstances.

My wife suffers from anxiety and depression. I regularly have to talk her off an emotional ledge because she thinks we are fucked. A paycheck being 400 short starts a whole episode. Sure I can point out all the people without a roof over their head, no food, etc. Her and my ability to make something is directly related to how we lived life. From poor parents to poor decisions like not taking school seriously because being cool was more important. Doesn't negate we had equal opportunity as everyone else to be more. We just happen to be average. That's all.
 
Khane

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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
I look ahead and I don't go 120 in an area with traffic lights .... how and why are you on this subject?
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It's really just a tangent. At least you keep your stories straight. I may not agree with you (or believe that you've never run a red light... come on man), but that's at least respectable.
 
Khane

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Titan_atlas_sl said:
It's fun reading how this thread has devolved. Khane an opportunity exists just by existing, the amount of effort or extra effort it takes to reach that opportunity does not negate it's existence. At no point was the thread about we are all equal, starting from equal footing. So save your sob story about people's starting circumstances.

My wife suffers from anxiety and depression. I regularly have to talk her off an emotional ledge because she thinks we are fucked. A paycheck being 400 short starts a whole episode. Sure I can point out all the people without a roof over their head, no food, etc. Her and my ability to make something is directly related to how we lived life. From poor parents to poor decisions like not taking school seriously because being cool was more important. Doesn't negate we had equal opportunity as everyone else to be more. We just happen to be average. That's all.
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What would your wife do without you Titan? It's actually a little shocking you hold the beliefs you do if that's the case.
 
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Khane_sl said:
There's a disconnect here. Nobody comes up to me and says silly stuff like that either. But people do reflect on their lives often in front of me and include me in their sentiment. Like when we had a good day and are enjoying a few cocktails... "We have it pretty good don't we", or if I'm just chillin, relaxin, maxin all cool and someone says "Life's not bad for Khane huh".

You know what I do? I raise my glass. I sure as shit don't take off my sunglasses and say "EXCUSE ME?"
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I have said stuff like that to my wife "we are actually making it in life finally, took a lot of shit to get here but it feels good".

Nobody has ever said it to or about me in my range of hearing though or that it has gotten back to me. I get the "wow to come from your childhood to this, how hard, so proud of you" or "you made cancer look easy and you didn't let it drag you into the mud, you should write a book" or "you and wifename have shown my kids that hard work pays off, not like your sister". Not once in my life has anyone ever called me lucky or privileged or even hinted at it in the slightest.
 
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Khane_sl said:
What would your wife do without you Titan? It's actually a little shocking you hold the beliefs you do if that's the case.
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She might kill herself.

She might overcome if she never married because she had to woman up without him.

She might have married someone else and had a similar life.

She might have married someone richer and had a better life and gotten over it and picked up a heroin habit.

She had every opportunity and this is where she is now, it might not be the end of the story.
 
Khane

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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
She might kill herself.

She might overcome if she never married because she had to woman up without him.

She might have married someone else and had a similar life.

She might have married someone richer and had a better life and gotten over it and picked up a heroin habit.

She had every opportunity and this is where she is now, it might not be the end of the story.
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I don't know if you fully understand that condition. Clinical depression and anxiety. It's completely fucking debilitating in even moderate cases.
 
Cad

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Khane_sl said:
Haha, you're lying about the full scholarship again dude? You literally gave me a tuconet for calling you out about that when you were trying to be sympathetic and claimed your wife supported you while you went to law school. It would take no fucking effort for me to post the link to that entire conversation here.

You are so fucking pathetic.
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/rolls eyes

If thats all you've got, I think I'm fine. You have made no points, and thinking you've "caught me lying" is hilarious. Tanoomba has endorsed your position, so I'm going to consider that a complete victory...
 
khalid

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Khane, do you think that maybe your attitude towards college (that its basically worthless, or at least that seems to have been your opinion in other threads) might feed into your belief in privilege? Virtually anyone has the options available to them to go to college. Even people that had a pretty shitty high school or did horribly will be able to get into a state school. Whether it be through loans (what I did mostly), military (I did the military for part of the funding), etc. This means that a large percentage of people doing poorly in life hav the capability to drastically improve their situation. These people aren't going to be able to get a PhD or get a top tier law school degree. However, almost anyone with some work can improve their situation.

Hell, look at Mist. The biggest complainer at how life is unfair for certain people. She is almost completely the architect of her own problems.
 
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Khane_sl said:
I don't know if you fully understand that condition. Clinical depression and anxiety. It's completely fucking debilitating in even moderate cases.
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I have a daughter with it remember. Suicide attempts, age 15, lots of therapy, in patient care, out patient, meds, doing incredibly better right now. Especially when it comes to the mind there is so little that is permanent.

I gave at least one really worst case scenario in there also.
 
Khane

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Cad_sl said:
/rolls eyes

If thats all you've got, I think I'm fine. You have made no points, and thinking you've "caught me lying" is hilarious. Tanoomba has endorsed your position, so I'm going to consider that a complete victory...
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Took you long enough to double down. I at least admire your willingness to take the bullet.
 
Cad

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Khane_sl said:
Took you long enough to double down. I at least admire you're willingness to take the bullet.
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Hey sorry I have some fake work at my fake job and my fake life to attend to now and then. Carry on with your shitposting.
 
Khane

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khalid_sl said:
Khane, do you think that maybe your attitude towards college (that its basically worthless, or at least that seems to have been your opinion in other threads) might feed into your belief in privilege? Virtually anyone has the options available to them to go to college. Even people that had a pretty shitty high school or did horribly will be able to get into a state school. Whether it be through loans (what I did mostly), military (I did the military for part of the funding), etc. This means that a large percentage of people doing poorly in life hav the capability to drastically improve their situation. These people aren't going to be able to get a PhD or get a top tier law school degree. However, almost anyone with some work can improve their situation.

Hell, look at Mist. The biggest complainer at how life is unfair for certain people. She is almost completely the architect of her own problems.
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This is a fair argument. But I disagree that anyone has the options available to them to go to college, simply because some kids live in neighborhoods so dangerous they have an impossible time even trying to get to school, or their parents are gone or useless and they need to take care of their siblings.

But most people here aren't even arguing that. Most people agree on situations like that being pretty hopeless.

I agree that a large percentage of people have the chance, I don't agree that a large percentage of people who haven't been able to aren't even trying though. The middle class is shrinking at an alarming rate, even decent people who have respectable jobs can barely afford to survive.
 
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