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Gavinmad_sl said:
I find it hard to believe that Kuriin is that enthusiastic about rimjobs IRL. I think he just presents himself as an ambassador for his people and feels the need to put on this wildly enthusiastic front.
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Maybe, idk. When I used to go out drinking with my buddies in the Navy, we talked about women just as bad as that. If I was gay I can't imagine I would be less likely to talk about sex in that way.

A couple of weeks ago we did a going away at a shitty pseudo strip club and the way my boss was talking about eating this girl's pussy you would think he was about to jump up on the stage and show us right there.
 
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Here in VA they don't get naked, they either wear bathing suits or pasties depending on the one you're at. This one was pasties, so it could have been worse.
 
Siddar

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Yeah, you seem to think it is some kind of flag you get if you down Sol Ro (in the butt).

When people talk about "soandso is dehumanizing whatever group" this is what they are talking about. You don't seem to be aware that gay people have thoughts and feelings just like you. They don't control their attractions any more than you do. They are people, just like you.

Seriously, go read some of Kuriin's posts. Not to pick on him, but the dude isn't reluctantly agreeing to have sex with men. He is into it every bit as much as you or whoever is with hetero sex. If not more.
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I really have no idea who your talking to. You seem to have some imaginary siddar in your head that thinks gays arn't human because they're gay.

Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they're not human and it also doesn't mean I have to bake them a cake ether.
 
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An absolutely awesome opinion piece at Ace of Spades.

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I think people should have -- and by God, do have -- the right to be fairly different from one another.

That's fucking America.

Did you not know that? That that's what America is?

That America is the right to be different from other people?

I don't see why a store run by a pious conservative Muslim can't demand that women be covered, if that's his bag, nor why a store run by a pious conservative Catholic can't also insist that women cover their shoulders, if that's his sense of what his business should be, of what should happen on property he owns.

Will there be hurt feelings when some are turned away?

Sure.

And who cares?

What the fuck are we, babies? Is this kindergarten, where everyone must be made to feel welcome, always?
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Read the whole thing, it's a great piece.
 
chaos

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Siddar_sl said:
I really have no idea who your talking to. You seem to have some imaginary siddar in your head that thinks gays arn't human because they're gay.

Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they're not human and it also doesn't mean I have to bake them a cake ether.
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Yeah, you think they are human, just not like you. They don't have real thoughts and desires ingrained in them, they just choose to have sex with men and therefore are now gay. They weighed the pros and cons, maybe made a list, and came down on the side of "i wanna be a gay".

Of course you don't really think that, because that is ludicrous. But there's really no other way to explain this whole "choice" nonsense. Either you're talking shit, or you really don't believe that gay people are human in the same way you are human.

Either that or I am completely off base here and everyone really did carefully measure the pros and cons before deciding to be gay or straight, then mentally trained themselves to feel attractions to whatever the their chosen preference was. I definitely did not go through this.
 
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AladainAF_sl said:
An absolutely awesome opinion piece at Ace of Spades.

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Read the whole thing, it's a great piece.
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We have already tried Separate but Equal. It didn't work. We can have a hundred discussions on why it doesn't work or maybe we can just look at what happened when we did it to the Blacks, Asians, or the Irish and and just skip that clusterfuck this time.
 
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It's not about hurt feelings. When you allow for this type of discrimination in commerce it causes major problems, as it has in the past. I know you religious nutjobs want to be allowed to form these communities where you can all band together and collectively expel and shun the various others you disapprove of, but no. We're not going to let you turn this country back into that shithole.
 
Siddar

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chaos_sl said:
Yeah, you think they are human, just not like you. They don't have real thoughts and desires ingrained in them, they just choose to have sex with men and therefore are now gay. They weighed the pros and cons, maybe made a list, and came down on the side of "i wanna be a gay".

Of course you don't really think that, because that is ludicrous. But there's really no other way to explain this whole "choice" nonsense. Either you're talking shit, or you really don't believe that gay people are human in the same way you are human.

Either that or I am completely off base here and everyone really did carefully measure the pros and cons before deciding to be gay or straight, then mentally trained themselves to feel attractions to whatever the their chosen preference was. I definitely did not go through this.
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You have some very odd beliefs about homosexuals bro. if you think simply because there homosexual they some how stop being human.

You also seem to think that simply because I oppose government requiring a person to make a gay wedding cake it means I oppose gay people on moral grounds I don't.

I'm opposed to the government forcing people to take actions they don't wish to on moral grounds.
 
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AladainAF_sl said:
An absolutely awesome opinion piece at Ace of Spades.

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Read the whole thing, it's a great piece.
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The problem with this whole thing is these business are NOT 'Conservative Christian Bakery, Inc.: catering to the whimsical cake-eating needs of all King James Bible adherents'. They are 'Local Bakery Co.'

So his entire point about 'going to the nuisance'... you should be able to walk into a random shoe store, expect to be able to purchase shoes in peace and leave without being interrogated for your compatibility with the business owners.
 
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Siddar_sl said:
Honestly I have no set line in the sand for when a person becomes officially gay.
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Not sure when you cross the line to become Officially Gay?

Siddar_sl said:
Come over here and drop you pants and bend over dude lets see if we can learn to become gay together.
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