Big Phoenix
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Marriage and the Power of Divorce
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Khane
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Everything about divorce law in the US is antiquated. It made sense years ago for the man to have to continue supporting his ex-wife if they divorced because women didn't have the opportunity to provide for themselves in a reasonable fashion. Nowadays? Women are perfectly capable and have all the opportunity they care to afford themselves. It makes some sense if a woman has foregone her career to be a stay at home mom and caretaker of the household for her to get some alimony (for her to go back to school or learn a trade or something) and child support for the kids but she should have to show some effort in becoming a member of the work force to receive the alimony in my opinion. And if the woman caused the divorce (leaving for the man she was cheating with for instance) well she should have to fend for her damn self. The problem I suppose is how do you prove that her actions were unconscionable in those scenarios?
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I might have been more fortunate than others, but you are wrong. My mother and I moved here from Poland when I was like 8 with only 2 suitcases and $100 to her name. She and I didn't even know the language. This was back when Poland was still socialist and she took a great risk smuggling us out of the country. We had help for the first year from PAC (Polish American Congress) here in Detroit. They set her up with a job at a factory making minimum wage and we lived in roach infested apartment buildings in the middle of Detroit ghetto. I got clothes that were donated to us by some organization and I remember eating tomato and butter sandwiches because that was all we could afford. A few years later my mom met my step dad and things got better, but for a few years we lived like peasants for sure.
Gravy
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TrollfaceDeux
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a century and a half ago, father received complete custody of the children. This was due to two things: 1) His family was his property. 2) father was best suited to teach the ways of the world to his offspring. Whatever we have now today is called Tender Year Doctrine, which basically assumes that children and mothers share "special bond" and it is the "best interest" of the child to be with the mother. This is of course load of fucking bullshit. This doctrine was a result of Industrial Revolution era conditions, where fathers worked 18 hours a day, often from great distance. It was also part of a movement that romanticized women as "nurturing" figures. It so happens that this coincides with the popularity of Romanticism in the 19th century.
Contested divorces (i.e. you cheated) are expensive as fuck. People would often try to avoid this in favour of no-fault divorce, which is biased anyhow.
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They are more nurturing. At least an average woman more than the average man. Who does the kid cry for when hurt usually? Its always mom. Now of course this is not always the case. But I know men which would make terrible single dads, probably including myself. Ill be the first to admit this. I have a hard time giving in to my kids and giving them everything they want. Partly because I didn't have it when I was a kid and its just easier at times. Moms puts her foot down, and usually shes right. Would I take care of them if need be? Of course, I would have to.
Big Phoenix
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You sure? My mother raised 3 kids on a bit less than $17 an hour. Never went to bed hungry, never went to school with tattered clothes or shoes falling apart.
Xequecal
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Yeah it all depends where youre at. For $15-17 a hour around here is one bedroom apartment and poorsville dude. $35K a year is just above poverty. Add two kids to the mix and their expenses, well, you do the math. also $17 a hour 15-20 yrs ago, when you were raised was a lot more than it is now.
Also my mother made like $8 a hour back in the 80s when she worked.
Also my mother made like $8 a hour back in the 80s when she worked.
Big Phoenix
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Wouldn't minimum wage of been like 1/3 of that in the 80s?
Sure trying to make ends meet on $15 in a super high abnormal high cost of living area is gonna be hard, that doesnt mean its not very much doable in a hell of a lot of other places.
Yeah we lived in the ghetto. It wasnt like holes in the walls with leaky roofs ghetto, just shitty low income ghetto. If anything I would say my mom was making around $7 an hour(+ child support from my dad) as a maid workng for rich people in what used to be a nice area of town.
Sure trying to make ends meet on $15 in a super high abnormal high cost of living area is gonna be hard, that doesnt mean its not very much doable in a hell of a lot of other places.
Child Support helps, but chances are she was doing other things on the side if you had a pretty nice childhood. Obviously I don't know your mom as well as you do, but it's possible she was getting paid for more than just her cleaning.
But yes, things have also changed a LOT in the last 30 years. 7 dollars an hour did go a lot further in the 80s.
Essentials: Food hasn't gone up much, but gas is up almost 400%, housing, even just renting, has doubled or tripled depending on where you live. 7 an hour now, would be comparable to making 20 an hour these days.
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Big Phoenix
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That was mid 90s and she definitely wasnt doing anything else on the side for extra money.
I sure miss that 75 cent gas though
I was so shocked one summer when a friend and I went to Milwaukee. Some random picture while we were in downtown Chicago and in the background, a gas station that had gas for 1.50 a gallon, I think. I thought that was insane, as it was routinely under a dollar in Houston. Oh, how I long for those days...
Selix
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I don't know where to put this so I'll put it here. I hate my wife's current hairstyle. I hate it with a fucking passion. Braids, dreadlocks or just a simple straight style are fine but this current style is fucking ugly. I'd complain about it but lately shes been in the habit of waking me up with a blowjob and/or riding me before sending me off to working and I'm not stupid enough to fuck up this ultra rare occurrence when she gets in this mood.
Still she wants me to look at her and be romantic with this fucking ugly furball thing on the top of her head and now we are going out this Friday and I just KNOW shes going to show this shit off.
Goddamn.
/rant off
I just needed to vent.
Edit: I can't find a picture of it but it looks like some kind of short afro mohawk coming out of the top with a part and the rest of her head is a short afro. It's just fucking ugly. That is all.
Still she wants me to look at her and be romantic with this fucking ugly furball thing on the top of her head and now we are going out this Friday and I just KNOW shes going to show this shit off.
Goddamn.
/rant off
I just needed to vent.
Edit: I can't find a picture of it but it looks like some kind of short afro mohawk coming out of the top with a part and the rest of her head is a short afro. It's just fucking ugly. That is all.
Big Phoenix
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Noodleface
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I'm trying to visualize your description and I literally cannot visualize it at all.
Can you draw something up in paint?
Can you draw something up in paint?